Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:55:33 +0400 From: "Igor B. Bykhalo" <goshik@binep.ac.ru> To: "Sergey A. Gribchenko" <gsa@gsa.kiev.ua> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NForce2 + FreeBSD Message-ID: <037801c354e6$02e6d780$ea2ce9c1@binep.ac.ru> References: <20030728084307.GA7984@gsa.kiev.ua>
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From: "Sergey A. Gribchenko" <gsa@gsa.kiev.ua> To: <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:43 PM Subject: NForce2 + FreeBSD > Hello, > > Is this possible to install drivers for this hardware under FreeBSD, > and begginig from which version? > > Motherboard Epox 8RDA3+ (NForce2) > > none0@pci0:0:1: class=0x050000 card=0x10001695 chip=0x01eb10de rev=0xc1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' > device = 'nForce2 Memory Controller 1' [...] Sergey, i don't have an answer for particular drivers, but you may be interested in the following message (in case you missed it): From: "Bill Paul" <wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG> To: <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: nVidia nForce2 potential owners please read (take two) > This only made it to one list the first time, trying again. These > newfangled computer things clearly can't be trusted. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ok, so, it occured to me recently to try to convince nVidia to cough > up programming documentation for their MCP ethernet controller. > > However, in order to do that, I need to be able to show that > there is in fact sufficient demand for a FreeBSD (or even NetBSD > or OpenBSD) driver to make it worth their while. nVidia doesn't > listen to end users, only OEMs, and if the OEMs don't ask for > support for a given OS, then support will not materialize. My > goal is to convince them to pull their heads far enough out from > between their legs to realize that Linux is not the be-all, end-all > of open source, and that just because OEMs haven't mentioned > FreeBSD, NetBSD or OpenBSD by name doesn't mean there aren't > people who want MCP ethernet support in BSD. > > For this, I need your help. What I need is to gather proof of > demand. What I want you do to is e-mail me (oh god, I can't believe > I'm setting myself up for this) if: > > - You wanted to purchase a computer system with an nVidia nForce2 > chipset but _didn't_ once you realized there was no BSD driver > support for the on-board ethernet. > > - You bought an nVidia nForce2 system without realizing the on-board > ethernet wasn't supported in BSD, were really disappointed once > you found out, and complained to the manufacturer _OR_ you wanted > to complain but didn't (because you weren't sure who to complain > to, or you didn't get around to it yet, or you forgot, or you were > abducted by aliens, or your dog ate your homework, or whatever). > > - You are in a position to approve or recommend the purchase of > a computer system (or several systems) for your company, research > group, espionage organization or other institution with money to > spend, but won't because there's no BSD driver support for the > on-board ethernet. > > - You never heard of nVidia, the nForce2 or the MCP ethernet controller > until I mentioned them, but now that you have, and you've gone out > and searched the interweb or visited your local computer store, you > think they're all really spiffy and would happily buy an nForce2 > system, but will hold off until there's a BSD driver for the > on-board ethernet. > > - You want to give me free large bags of cash. > > Do *NOT* e-mail me if: > > - You want me to help you transfer a large sum of money out of Nigeria > or some other African nation. > > - You think I'm dying of cancer and my dying wish is to collect > e-mails from all over the world. > > - You think I want to MAKE MONEY FAST (if I wanted to do that, > I wouldn't be writing device drivers for free). > > - You work for SCO or the RIAA. > > I think you get the idea. Consider it a petition of sorts. All I > need is an e-mail from you, with a line or two explaining your > particular circumstances. If you did not buy an nForce2-based > computer due to lack of BSD support, say so. If you did, but you > were pissed by the lack of BSD support, say so. If you told your > friends, relatives, cow-orkers or purchasing office not to buy > nForce2-based computers because of the lack of BSD support, say so. > Cite the OEM vendor of the computer (or computer) and the model > (or models) where appropriate. If more than one computer was > involved, say how many. > > Every lost sale or dissatisfied customer I can present as evidence > makes it that much easier to convince nVidia to unclench its > tight... fists... and provide the documentation needed to write > a BSD driver. > > NOTE: Please do make up phony e-mails just to bloat the figures or > or cobble together a perl script to send me hundreds of auto-generated > messages from forged addresses. Play nice, you scum. > > So, send your cards and letters to wpaul@freebsd.org. And don't be > afraid to spread the word. Ask other people on other mailing lists. > Ask your friends. Ask your enemies. Ask not what your OS can do for > you: ask what you can do for your OS. > > -Bill > > -- > ============================================================================= > -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu > wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems > ============================================================================= > "If stupidity were a handicap, you'd have the best parking spot." > =============================================================================
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