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Date:      Thu, 10 May 2007 23:30:14 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Experiences with 7.0-CURRENT and vmware.
Message-ID:  <20070511033014.GA82291@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <4643E1E2.1060702@u.washington.edu>
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On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:24:18PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:14:28PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> >>Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >>>On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:44:48PM +0000, Darren Reed wrote:
> >>>>On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:41:44PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >>>>>On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:54:45PM +0000, Darren Reed wrote:
> >>>>...
> >>>>>>In another reply it was "hint.apic.0.disabled=1".
> >>>>>>My current loader.conf:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>vm.kmem_size=536870912
> >>>>>>vm.kmem_size_max=536870912
> >>>>>>unset acpi_load
> >>>>>acpi_load="NO" to disable the module
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
> >>>>>>hint.apci.0.disabled=1
> >>>>>dunno what apci does :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"
> >>>>>This is the one that should work.  Can you confirm that you see it in
> >>>>>the loader environment by doing 'show'?
> >>>>ok.  I modified my loader.conf to be:
> >>>>
> >>>>hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"
> >>>>vm.kmem_size=536870912
> >>>>vm.kmem_size_max=536870912
> >>>>vfs.zfs.arc_max=402653184
> >>>>
> >>>>and now ACPI is didsabled when the kernel boots :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>Is it possible for parsing errors of this file to generate errors?
> >>>>And maybe pause for a few seconds so they can be read?
> >>>I guess all things are possible with forth.
> >>>
> >>>>When I was modifying the loader.conf, I was looking for errors on
> >>>>bootup but regarding getting acpi vs apci vs apic right, I never
> >>>>saw any.  My experience also tells me that errors seem to quietly
> >>>>stop the rest of the file being parsed or...?
> >>>>
> >>>>>># sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware="ACPI-fast"
> >>>>>>kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-safe
> >>>>>>sysctl: kern.timecounter.hardware: Invalid argument
> >>>>>kern.timecounter.choice
> >>>>When I tried to set this with sysctl, I got told it was read-only.
> >>>>The next step was to put it in loader.conf but now ACPI *is* disabled :)
> >>>Sorry, .hardware was the correct one.  I don't know why you are unable
> >>>to set it at runtime:
> >>>
> >>>xor# sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware=TSC
> >>>kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-fast -> TSC
> >>>xor# sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware=ACPI-fast
> >>>kern.timecounter.hardware: TSC -> ACPI-fast
> >>>
> >>>Kris
> >>I'm not sure why but it isn't settable with VMWare 1.03 server either.
> >
> >Maybe there are no other valid choices provided by vmware.
> >
> >>I gave the Intel ACPI one a shot though and I haven't seen any adverse 
> >>effects.. yet. It is true that the higher the number, the faster the 
> >>synchronization or the inverse?
> >
> >It's a "quality factor" that tries to estimate and rank the various
> >properties of time counters (higher = better).
> 
> Basically sample rate?

I think things like accuracy, query cost, stability.

Kris




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