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Date:      Thu, 13 Apr 2023 19:54:42 +0900
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Pawe=C5=82_Jakub_Dawidek?= <pawel@dawidek.net>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>, vishwin@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org, Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, pjd@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: 2a58b312b62f - main - zfs: merge openzfs/zfs@431083f75
Message-ID:  <D0D9BD06-C321-454C-A038-C55C63E0DD6B@dawidek.net>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On Apr 13, 2023, at 16:10, Cy Schubert &lt;Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>=EF=BB=BF<span>In message &lt;20230413070426.8A54F25A@slippy.cwsent.com&gt;=
, Cy Schubert writes:</span><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>In message &=
lt;20230413064252.1E5C1318@slippy.cwsent.com&gt;, Cy Schubert writes:</span>=
<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I=
n message &lt;A291C24C-9D7C-4E79-AD03-68ED910FC2DE@yahoo.com&gt;, Mark Milla=
rd </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><span>write</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>s:</span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span>[This just puts my prior reply's material into Cy's</span><b=
r></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>adjusted resend of the orig=
inal. The To/Cc should</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><s=
pan>be coomplete this time.]</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On Apr 1=
2, 2023, at 22:52, Cy Schubert &lt;Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com&gt; =3D</span><=
br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>In message &lt;C8E4A43B-9FC8-45=
6E-ADB3-13E7F40B2B04@yahoo.com&gt;, Mark =3D</span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Millard=3D20</span><br></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>write</span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>s:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>From: Charlie Li &=
lt;vishwin_at_freebsd.org&gt; wrote on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><span>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 20:11:16 UTC :</span><br></block=
quote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Charlie Li wrote:</spa=
n><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Mateusz Guzik wrote:</span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=
can you please test poudriere with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>https://github.co=
m/openzfs/zfs/pull/14739/files</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>After applying, o=
n the md(4)-backed pool regardless of =3D3D</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>block_cloning,=3D3D20</=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>the cy@ `cp -R` test reports no differing (=
ie corrupted) files. =3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Will=3D3D20=3D3D</=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>rep=
ort back on poudriere results (no block_cloning).</span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>As for poudriere, build failures are still rolling in. These are =3D</span=
><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>(and=3D3D20=3D3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><=
br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>have been) entirely random on every run. Some examples from this =3D</span=
><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>run:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span=
>=3D3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>lang/php81:</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>- post-inst=
all: @${INSTALL_DATA} ${WRKSRC}/php.ini-development=3D3D20</span><br></block=
quote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>${WRKSRC}/php.ini-production ${WRKDIR}/php.conf =3D3D</span><br></block=
quote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>${STAGEDIR}/${PREFIX}=
/etc</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>- consumers fail to build due to corrupted php.conf packaged</s=
pan><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>devel/ninja:</span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><span>- phase: stage</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>- install -s -m 555=3D3D20</spa=
n><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/ninja/work/ninja-1.11.1/ninja=3D3=
D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><span>/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/ninja/work/stage/usr/loca=
l/bin</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>- consumers fail to build due to corrupted bin/n=
inja packaged</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>devel/netsu=
rf-buildsystem:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>- phase: stage</span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>-=
 mkdir -p=3D3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D</span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/n=
etsurf-buildsystem/work/stage/usr/local/share/n</span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>e=3D</span><br></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>=3D3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>tsurf-buildsystem/makefi=
les=3D3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><span>=3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/netsurf-buildsystem=
/work/stage/usr/local/share/n</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>e=3D</span><br></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>tsurf-buildsystem/testtools</span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>for M=
 in Makefile.top Makefile.tools Makefile.subdir =3D3D</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Makefile.pkgconfig=3D3D20<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>Makefile.clang Makefile.gcc Makefile.norcroft Makefile.open64; do \=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span>cp makefiles/$M=3D3D20</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D</span=
><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D</span><=
br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=
/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/netsurf-buildsystem/work/stage/usr/local/share/n</s=
pan><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><sp=
an>e=3D</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D</span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>tsurf-buildsystem/makefiles/;=3D3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>\</span><br></blockquote></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>done<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><span>- graphics/libnsgif fails to build due to NUL character=
s in=3D3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Makefile.{clang,subdir}, causing nothing t=
o link</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><sp=
an>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Summary:=
 I have problems building ports into packages</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><span>via poudriere-devel use despite being fully upd=
ated/patched</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>(as o=
f when I started the experiment), never having enabled</span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>block_cloning ( still using openzfs-2.=
1-freebsd ).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>In other words, I=
 can confirm other reports that have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>been made.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>The details follow.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>[Written as I was=
 working on setting up for the experiments</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><span>and then executing those experiments, adjusting as=
 I went</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>along.]</sp=
an><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I've run my own tests in a cont=
ext that has never had the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>zpool upgrade and that jump from before the openzfs import to</spa=
n><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>after the existing co=
mmits for trying to fix openzfs on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>FreeBSD. I report on the sequence of activities getting to=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>the point of tes=
ting as well.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D=
20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>By personal po=
licy I keep my (non-temporary) pool's compatible</span><br></blockquote></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>with what the most recent ??.?-RELEASE suppo=
rts, using</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>openzf=
s-2.1-freebsd for now. The pools involved below have</span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>never had a zpool upgrade from where the=
y started. (I've no</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><sp=
an>pools that have ever had a zpool upgrade.)</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>(Temporary pools are rare for me, such as this investigati=
on.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>But I'm not t=
esting block_cloning or anything new this time.)</span><br></blockquote></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><span>I'll note that I use zfs for bectl, not for redundancy.=
 So</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>my evidence i=
s more limited in that respect.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>The activities were done on a HoneyComb (16 Cortex-A72 cores).</span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>The system has and supports E=
CC RAM, 64 GiBytes of RAM are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>present.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I star=
ted by duplicating my normal zfs environment to an</span><br></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>external USB3 NVMe drive and adjusting the=
 host name and such</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><sp=
an>to produce the below. (Non-debug, although I do not strip</span><br></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>symbols.) :</span><br></blockquo=
te></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span># uname -apKU</span><br></blockquote></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><span>FreeBSD CA72_4c8G_ZFS 14.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 14.0-CUR=
RENT #90 =3D3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>ma=
in-n261544-cee09bda03c8-dirty: Wed Mar 15 20:25:49 PDT 2023 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=3D3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><span>root@CA72_16Gp_ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-CA72-nodbg-clang/usr/main-sr=
c/arm</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>6=3D</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D</span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>4.aarch64/sys/GENERIC-NODBG-CA72 arm64 aarch64 1400082 1400082</sp=
an><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I then did: git fetch, stash pu=
sh ., merge --ff-only, stash apply . :</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><span>my normal procedure. I then also applied the patch from=
:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br=
></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>https://github.com/openzfs=
/zfs/pull/14739/files</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Then I=
 did: buildworld buildkernel, install them, and rebooted.</span><br></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>The result was:</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span># uname -apKU</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>FreeBSD CA72_4c8G_ZFS 14.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #91 =3D3D<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>main-n262122-2ef2=
c26f3f13-dirty: Wed Apr 12 19:23:35 PDT 2023 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D3D</=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D</span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>root@CA=
72_4c8G_ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-CA72-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/arm</span><br=
></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>6=3D=
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>4.aar=
ch64/sys/GENERIC-NODBG-CA72 arm64 aarch64 1400086 1400086</span><br></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>The later poudriere-devel based build of package=
s from ports is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>b=
ased on:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</s=
pan><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span># ~/fbsd-based-on-w=
hat-commit.sh -C /usr/ports</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>4e94ac9eb97f (HEAD -&gt; main, freebsd/main, freebsd/HEAD) =3D3D<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>devel/freebsd-gcc=
12: Bump to 12.2.0.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><sp=
an>Author: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;John Baldwin &lt;jhb@FreeBSD.org&gt;</spa=
n><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Commit: &nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;John Baldwin &lt;jhb@FreeBSD.org&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>CommitDate: 2023-03-25 00:06:40 +0000</span><=
br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>branch: main</span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>merge-base: 4e94ac9eb97fab165=
10b74ebcaa9316613182a72</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><span>merge-base: CommitDate: 2023-03-25 00:06:40 +0000</span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>n613214 (--first-parent --count for m=
erge-base)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>poudriere attempt=
ed to build 476 packages, starting</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>with pkg (in order to build the 56 that I explicitly</span=
><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>indicate that I want).=
 It is my normal set of ports.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>The form of building is biased to allowing a high</span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>load average compared to the nu=
mber of hardware</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=
threads (same as cores here): each builder is allowed</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>to use the full count of hardware threa=
ds. The build</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=E2=82=AC=C3=8FL=E2=82=AC=E2=82=
=AC=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC=E2=80=B9=15 &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; used USE_TMPFS=3D3D3D"d=
ata" instead of the USE_TMPFS=3D3D3Dall I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>normally use on the build m=
achine involved.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=
=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>And it prod=
uced some random errors during the attempted</span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>builds. A type of example that is easy to interp=
ret</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>without furth=
er exploration is:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>pkg_resourc=
es.extern.packaging.requirements.InvalidRequirement: Parse </span><br></bloc=
kquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>=3D</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>error at "'\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00'": Expected W:(0-9A-Z=
a-z)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0</span><br></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> &nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;da0p8 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ONL=
INE &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0 &nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span=
>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>errors: No k=
nown data errors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=
=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span=
><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D3D3D=3D3D3D=3D3D3D<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Mark Millard</spa=
n><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>marklmi at yahoo.com<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>Let's try this again. Claws-mail didn't include the list address in=
 =3D</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>t=
he=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>header. Trying to reply, again, using exmh instead.</span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Did your pools s=
uffer the EXDEV problem? The EXDEV also corrupted =3D</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>files.</span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>As I reported, this was a jump from before the import</spa=
n><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>to as things are tonigh=
t (here). So: NO, unless the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>existing code as of tonight still has the EXDEV problem!</span><br=
></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></bl=
ockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Prior to this experiment I'd not progressed an=
y media</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>beyond: mai=
n-n261544-cee09bda03c8-dirty Wed Mar 15 20:25:49.</span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I think, without sufficient investiga=
tion we risk jumping to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>conclusions. I've taken an extre=
mely cautious approach, rolling back</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>snapshots (as much a=
s possible, i.e. poudriere datasets) when EXDEV</span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>corrupti=
on was encountered.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Again=
: nothing between main-n261544-cee09bda03c8-dirty and</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>main-n262122-2ef2c26f3f13-dirty was invol=
ved at any stage.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span><=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I did not rollback any snapshots in my MH m=
ail directory. Rolling back</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>snapshots of my MH maildir w=
ould result in loss of email. I have to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>live with that c=
orruption. Corrupted files in my outgoing sent email</span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>dir=
ectory remain:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>slippy$ ugrep -=
cPa '\x00' ~/.Mail/note | grep -c :1=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>53</span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>slippy$=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>There ar=
e 53 corrupted files in my note log of 9913 emails. Those =3D</span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>files</span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>will ne=
ver be fixed. They were corrupted by the EXDEV bug. Any new ZFS</span><br></=
blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><span>or ZFS patches cannot retroactively remove the corruption from those=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><span>files.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Bu=
t my poudriere files, because the snapshots were rolled back, were</span><br=
></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>"repaired" by the rolled back snapshots.</span><br></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=3D20=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><span>I'm not convinced that there is presently active corrup=
tion since</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>the problem has been fixed. I am convinced th=
at whatever corruption</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></bl=
ockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>that was written at the time will=
 remain forever or until those files</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>are deleted or repl=
aced -- just like my email files written to disk at</span><br></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>the t=
ime.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span><=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>My test results and=
 procedure just do not fit your conclusion</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span>that things are okay now if block_clonging is comple=
tely avoided.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Admitting I'=
m wrong: sending copies of my last reply to you back to myself,</span><br></=
blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>again and agai=
n, three times, I've managed to reproduce the corruption you </span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><s=
pan>are talking about.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>This em=
ail itself was also corrupted. Below is what was sent. Good thing </span><br=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>multiple copies are saved by e=
xmh.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Admitting I'm wrong: sending copies o=
f my last reply to you back to myself, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>again and again, three times, I've managed to reproduce t=
he corruption you </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>ar=
e talking about.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>This email it=
self was also corrupted. Below is what was sent. Good thing </span><br><span=
>multiple copies are saved by exmh.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Admitti=
ng I'm wrong: sending copies of my last reply to you back to myself, </span>=
<br><span>again and again, three times, I've managed to reproduce the corrup=
tion you </span><br><span>are talking about.</span><br><span></span><br><spa=
n>=46rom my previous email to you.</span><br><span></span><br><span>header. T=
rying to reply:::::::::, again, using exmh instead.</span><br><span> &nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;^^^^^^^^^</span><br><span>H=
ere it is, nine additional bytes of garbage. I've replaced the garbage </spa=
n><br><span>with colons because nulls mess up a lot of things, including cut=
&amp;paste.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In another instance about 500 b=
ytes were removed. I can reproduce the </span><br><span>corruption at will n=
ow.</span><br><span></span><br><span>The EXDEV patch is applied. Block_cloni=
ng is disabled.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Somehow nulls and other gar=
bage are inserted in the middle of emails after </span><br><span>the ZFS upg=
rade.</span><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Can you please try th=
is patch:</div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D""=
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