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Date:      Wed, 3 Dec 2025 09:01:50 -0800
From:      Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
To:        mm@dorfdsl.de, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/installation/ : should it have some notes for folk using a pkgbase 14.* ? relnotes/#upgrade or relnotes/#upgrade-rc ?
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Marco Moock <mm_at_dorfdsl.de> wrote on
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2025 16:10:37 UTC :

> Am 03.12.2025 um 07:54:52 Uhr schrieb Mark Millard:
> 
> > On Dec 3, 2025, at 06:23, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> writes: 
> > >> As stands the instructions do not even mention freebsd-update
> > >> being inappropriate. 
> > > 
> > > That would be because it isn't. 
> > 
> > I'm confused. The context was starting from a pkgbase 14.3 . But:
> > 
> > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/usr.sbin/freebsd-update?id=cf1aba2857
> > 
> > freebsd-update: refuse to operate on a pkgbase system
> > 
> > FreeBSD-update is not compatible with packaged base.
> 
> That is intended. If you already have a system with pkgbase, then
> freebsd-update will refuse operation because the packages are handled
> by pkg.

I know. That is why I was confused by the reply I got that indicates
freebsd-update is appropriate to the context that I tried to specify.

I was trying to report that there are no instructions for folks that
experimented with pkgbase for 14.* (such as 14.3) but did not progress
to 15.0-PRERELEASE through 15.0-RC*, not even a note to use pkgbase
instead of the existing instructions or for dealing with the the same
issue that PRERELEASE, ALPHA*, BETA*, and RC* for 15.0 have. Following
the existing instructions would have such folks trying to use
freebsd-update if they trying to use the existing documentation to
answer their questions.

Note: As stands, I run pkgbase main mostly and have a pkgbase stable/15
context as well. I do not have the problem that I was reporting. I was
trying to indicate likely future support questions on the lists
caused by the lack of anything explicit. An example message about doing
such an upgrade was:

https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase/2025-December/001141.html

==
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com




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