Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 20:33:39 +0100 From: Marc Balmer <marc@msys.ch> To: Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> Cc: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" <unixmania@gmail.com>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r201477 - head/games/fortune/datfiles Message-ID: <0F2B2EB1-C91F-459D-BE93-A81B7FF4173C@msys.ch> In-Reply-To: <4B477CBE.6090000@FreeBSD.org> References: <201001040916.o049GZ1Y013061@svn.freebsd.org> <4B4384E3.2080600@FreeBSD.org> <867hrvgw2j.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4B46CFE8.8000501@FreeBSD.org> <e71790db1001080343n89fe68r1c6f937a951501a3@mail.gmail.com> <4B477CBE.6090000@FreeBSD.org>
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Am 08.01.2010 um 19:43 schrieb Doug Barton:
> Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote:
>> 2010/1/8 Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>:
>>> Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote:
>>>> I don't see how the Rumsfeld quote could offend anyone.
>>> A) Better safe than sorry
>>> B) Regardless of my own opinions I can easily see how someone =20
>>> could be
>>> offended by anything having to do with Rumsfeld, the Iraq war, etc.
>>
>> Perhaps, at the moment.
>
> Which is where we are now, yes.
>
>> Five to ten years from now that quotation will
>> be just history, like the ones from/about JFK, Richard Nixon, and
>> Spiro Agnew.
>
> Actually there are several things in the main fortunes file that I
> find offensive related to political stuff of the 60's and 70's
> (although not for the reasons that I think most people would find them
> offensive). Note, I am not however suggesting that we do a wholesale
> move of potentially offensive stuff.
>
>> Are you whiling to apply such rule to all supposedly
>> political fortunes?
>
> My very first post on this was, "Anything that may offend someone
> belongs in fortunes-o, and all political commentary belongs in this
> category."
>
> FWIW, while I am definitely in favor of treating all people with
> courtesy and respect, I am just about as
> anti-mindless-political-correctness as you can possibly be. In fact,
> in both my .bashrc and my xscreensaver config I use fortune -a because
> as much as some of the things in there offend me, I find it refreshing
> to be challenged by other viewpoints. OTOH, I am also in favor of us
> building a professional-quality operating system, and while I actually
> _voiced_ my objection to the removal of
> "die_you_gravy_sucking_pig_dog" because that is not something that is
> user-visible, I think that if we SAY there is a distinction between
> fortunes and fortunes-o that we ought to follow through on that.
> Putting something that we know could (and almost certainly will) be
> found offensive in the fortunes file because WE are smarter and more
> sophisticated than those fools who would be offended by it is
> childish, foolish, and unprofessional.
>
Actually I think -o should be the default for fortune. I think it =20
would be funnier.
There should of course be an option like maybe -f ("faint at heart" or =20=
so) for people without a sense or humour or who are easily offended by =20=
a good joke....
-mb
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