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Date:      Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:52:32 -0800
From:      "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing@gmail.com>
To:        "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com>
Cc:        Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
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If I could program my way out of a _paper bag_ I would.  But I cant.

But ive helped drive some wonderful gifting Fbsd's way in my time..im
still a believer.

On 1/9/07, Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/9/07, Jeff Mohler <speedtoys.racing@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Fbsd needs SAN support before it can cope with
> > virtualization..virtualization requires a lot of disk..spindles..and
> > FCP/iSCSI is a great way to drive this condensation.
> >
> > I mean..when you have to read this list, and see people wonder which
> > end of a SAN connection owns the responsibility for fsck'ing a SAN
> > filesystem, I wonder how quickly I can bone up on Linux.
> >
> > In ten years at Network Appliance..wanna know exactly how many FreeBSD
> > host installs ive seen besides Yahoo?
> >
> > 2.
> >
> > How many -non- Linux SAN configurations?  Probly 80% of all SAN I see
> > and work with are Linux based.
> >
> > Fbsd NFS client performance is 1/3'd that of a tuned linux box, can
> > you say ../..?  If you can, you know what its like to never have a
> > valid directory attr cache on your mounts.  (ick)  Automount...dont
> > even go there.
> >
> > Im in this for the long haul..I like Fbsd, and as long s lynx and
> > apache still work on it, im happy.  As for the future..I just dont see
> > much serious future there unless it grows up.
> >
> > Rememer when Linux couldnt do _crap_ and Fbsd 2.5 was the bomb?  I
> > do...I want like to see that again.
> >
>
> I'd like to see FreeBSD on top too, I really love and care for it but
> I'm very disappointed and ambivalent with the projects current state
> of affairs. I think one project that should be attempted is to get
> FreeBSD running on top of a Linux kernel. This could potently solve
> FreeBSD's biggest problems.... We could mold it (the Linux kernel)
> into are own kernel while still maintaining compatibility with the
> real Linux kernel tree. anyhow... it's something to think about.
>



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