Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 14:03:31 +0100 From: John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st> To: Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> Cc: NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" <testing@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests Message-ID: <564882A3.7060109@marino.st> In-Reply-To: <564880FA.5000009@freebsd.org> References: <CAG=rPVc1t2q_MR99iyWYfy4xrCy==KA1yT=EAaa2twiHoC=zcA@mail.gmail.com> <CAG=rPVfK6ZyWJhtuBihmj%2BWNp94auCJ3kDqoQm-ygXNpiLeatA@mail.gmail.com> <69242BD8-9010-47F0-9706-BE206376ECEA@gmail.com> <289892B6-EACE-4BDA-B838-D3DC750319DE@gmail.com> <56482FA9.2010803@marino.st> <56487973.5070803@freebsd.org> <20151115124656.GB93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <564880FA.5000009@freebsd.org>
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On 11/15/2015 1:56 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On 15.11.2015 15:46, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 03:24:19PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>> On 15.11.2015 10:09, John Marino wrote: >>> ISO8859-1 locales are legacy even if obsoleted in modern world (I agree >>> with that). Lots of ports (even at configure stage!) have checks for >>> them. Since we generate locales from CLDR now, it will be no cost to >>> bring all 8859-1 back to not violate POLA and not fix every failing port. >>> >> Exp-run have been made and no ports were failing with the removed locales. > > There is soft-fail, configure just marks that locales are not supported > and use "C". Sorry I don't remember port names where I saw it right now > and don't have a time to search for them right now too. Soft-fails (like > in tcl with nl_langinfo) are almost impossible to detect excepting > specific situation happens or source code inspection. Do we ever need > them when there is no harm to keep 8859-1 locales? > Well, there is "harm". The -1/-15 confusion happens a lot. Is the plan to keep every locale ever created for ever and ever? Never do any kind of kind of cleanup or reorg? This is not really any kind of problem. Update the regression test and nobody will even notice after that in all liklihood. John
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