Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 17:35:57 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm <andreas@klemm.gtn.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Satoshi Asami <asami@cs.berkeley.edu>, phk@dk.tfs.com Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Message-ID: <19970803173557.33417@klemm.gtn.com> In-Reply-To: <199708031244.FAA01581@blimp.mimi.com>; from Satoshi Asami on Sun, Aug 03, 1997 at 05:44:00AM -0700 References: <2825.870592597@critter.dk.tfs.com> <199708031244.FAA01581@blimp.mimi.com>
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On Sun, Aug 03, 1997 at 05:44:00AM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote:
> [ Phk ]:
> * I wonder how many of you whould have written similar to
> * argue against the inclusion of awk, sed, yacc, lex & csh,
> * using the very same arguments, in earlier days of unix ?
>
> This is the funniest message I've seen in the whole thread. How can
> you compare all those utilities written by the Unix developers
> themselves with external software whose incompatilibity between
> versions are yanking us around?
Poul, Satoshi has technical problems to keep the ports collection
in sync for -stable and -current.
Only _this_ brought up this discussion, which of course ended up
in a bloat vs. anti bloat campaign ;-)
The question is, how do we get Satoshi and the others motivated,
to support the huge port monster in the future for -current and
-stable.
This only seems to be possible, if -current and -stable arenīt
too different.
Perhaps Satoshi should go into details and tell us more verbose
his concrete problems with the inclusion of tcl 8.0 and such.
Another thing ... another question might be, if
- this is only a "head up folks" from Satoshi, because he
has so much work to do to keep all ports running and
such changes produce more work and "headaches"
- or if it really breaks something.
Anyway, we should be able to find a way that makes it possible, that
Satoshi likes to continue his very valuable work for both,
-current and -stable !
Again, Iīm against supporting the ports collection only for -stable,
because of the disadvantages already mentioned by me.
Please try to work towards a productive consens.
Satoshi, another thing ... might it be acceptable only this
time, that tcl stays in the main tree, because people want to
have it to write tools for the main system ?
Or - what sounds like another good suggestion - should the
release and admin stuff go into a separate cvs repository
apart from src/ ?
Andreas ///
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