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Date:      Sun, 17 Dec 2000 22:04:42 +1100
From:      Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
To:        freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org
Cc:        Michel Van Simaeys <michel.van.simaeys@skynet.be>
Subject:   Re: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time.
Message-ID:  <20001217220440.E27174@welearn.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <000c01c0679d$4d119c20$fae0043e@sky40294>; from Michel Van Simaeys on Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 09:18:03PM %2B0100
References:  <000c01c0679d$4d119c20$fae0043e@sky40294>

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On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 09:18:03PM +0100, Michel Van Simaeys wrote:
> 
> Finally I have a portable to instaal FreeBsd 3.3 on. After making the
> installation disks, I try to boot from diskette. This is what
> appears. After about one minute the system stops with the following
> statements.
> /boot.config: -P
> Keyboard: no
> -
> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
> 
> I have to reset the machine to be able to continue. I saw in the
> documentation an advise on using the 'userconfig' tool; Where on the
> net can I find this tool?
> What is going on??
>  I have a Echos P133 Portable from Olivetti with DOS 6.3 installed.

Michel, you should repost your question, maybe with a little more
information, to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. You don't have to join
that list in order to post there. Freebsd-questions is the only place
to ask support questions.

[Now... mainly for the others...]
This is a really good example of why we must only use freebsd-questions
for support. Laptops present their own little quirks, and it is very
easy to make big mistakes (like wasting your weekend and driving
yourself crazy) if someone tells you the wrong thing.

If you write to freebsd-questions then the people answering will have
some experience, and it is very likely that some of them will have the
answer you need.

If ever an experienced FreeBSD user on freebsd-questions responds with
the wrong information, they will be quickly corrected by the others
there, and you will get a copy of that email as well.

If a newbie or expereicned FreeBSD user responds with the wrong
information on freebsd-newbies, nobody corrects them and every other
newbie in the world will believe that mistake. (And that has already
happened a few times!)

For example, I wouldn't be surprised if you need special boot disks in
your case but I am not experienced with laptop installation of 3.3, so
I could just be misleading you. But I could tell it to you with immense
confidence, as if I know it to be the truth, then everyone here would
go "Oooohh! Sue knows a lot! She's a genius!" even if I was wrong. But
who would that be helping?? If I am really confident that I have the
answer, I would be confident enough to readdress the reply email to
freebsd-questions with a cc: to you. Someone who sends answers to
freebsd-newbies is obviously not sufficiently confident about their
answer to send it to a place where knowledgeable people might detect
that it is wrong, so they shouldn't be giving answers at all. You want
someone who knows for sure and who can tell you how or where to get
what you need if you really do need it.

When you get the right answer on freebsd-questions, you can solve your
own problem _and_ the answer will go into the archives so that everyone
else can find it when they have the problem. (You have already searched
the freebsd-questions archives for a previous answer to a similar
question, haven't you?)

I hope you get your problem solved quickly and come back and join us
for some chat, boasting, etc. Meanwhile, have a look at the Newbies FAK
email that was sent out yesterday for more advice on dealing with
problems. For the short story, see the welcome note that you received
when you joined freebsd-newbies, and the list charters on the web site.

Of course you can come back and ask here if I have confused you about
using the mailing lists  :-)

-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-
 
 


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