Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:42:22 -0400 From: Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, current@freebsd.org, arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root Message-ID: <20210922154222.6bvnqk4kjjxewy6n@mutt-hbsd> In-Reply-To: <82d7f4d1-5ce9-c7ed-d993-b16b3ddac6e3@FreeBSD.org> References: <20210922083645.4vnoajyvwq6wfhdf@aniel.nours.eu> <82d7f4d1-5ce9-c7ed-d993-b16b3ddac6e3@FreeBSD.org>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:34:58AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > On 9/22/21 1:36 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > Hello, > > > > TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!! > > > > For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be confusing > > as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled on a bourne shell > > compatible interactive shell: zsh, bash, or variant of ksh. > > > > Recently our sh(1) has receive update to make it more user friendly in > > interactive mode: > > * command completion (thanks pstef@) > > * improvement in the emacs mode, to make it behave by default like other shells > > * improvement in the vi mode (in particular the vi edit to respect $EDITOR) > > * support for history as described by POSIX. > > > > This makes it a usable shell by default, which is why I would like to propose to > > make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE (not MFCed) > > > > If no strong arguments has been raised until October 15th, I will make this > > proposal happen. > > > > Again just in case: THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL TO REMOVE CSH FROM BASE! > > I think this is fine. I would also be fine with either removing 'toor' from the > default password file or just leaving it as-is for POLA. (I would probably > prefer removing it outright.) HardenedBSD recently removed toor. No one has complained (yet?). A small Twitter poll[0] showed that 85% of people who responded do not use toor. [0]: https://twitter.com/HardenedBSD/status/1415781911063056389 Thanks, -- Shawn Webb Cofounder / Security Engineer HardenedBSD https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/raw/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEA6TL67gupaZ9nzhT/y5nonf44foFAmFLTtsACgkQ/y5nonf4 4frLMQ//TWQDSx8vgbQt375Ujn9eP+uldHH69sY+4Cb0XdkgoJSm5t4UubeHjhr4 dVFoSmWTDoUW+mxdbLoAOKgSgYLrFbPqzgaZXOc7Oz0IBixQSNu2oFnba+JiDT9D gIkvupczjQziFELf44+Mkhp8awEchNjiwU76Nr3fIk0ZzOeWmzDyDbyVGs46+Uw0 QtH4nFvH/zSu2pMdq/r2vvhMKugUExHoczSQNV3tpL0IUaa4yAno8FnXTyvmbGag OBXLpu8tMrlwBOxVtLT7na1G94ZIqay+ECAs7PJuJdxqrvZiBOrzIMnIKRUy5Lnh 4A2s6fD/IX4zYd0RLBUnBx7+oTKi6OBVwYbBfHMywhbaOAfHrgNH4mnpVBx5re1b 7PfE2qUK65NXZEbqQZVGXWTSOolLE0SOUZSgEw1Mqa4ldktzUJm7JK7/lQRZx/Jr jy202LgpUXuv6usqN5GjjUGKbewFNkbwkXhadkqsnXV9fPdKbKRXg01KqmHeiU6A bUAal3IHv+mwx/JL8+c/dSmD/iZhDIho8uKFokKaIsINU+ESjFyNvUf4C1qLlfe4 v5hFCGVhRnLbfVRHGjyoDbW5ay7La2GKhcEUB+CQHtIt2HYZ1vFwl4hOtGv6WWT4 zmws1euGBi1vn8U9HhdT2HcTP/KljmE6QNwj4v/bXsM2zOy2Q+Y= =GJ7+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----help
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