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Date:      Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:24:02 +0000
From:      Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@crodrigues.org>
To:        Yar Tikhiy <yar@comp.chem.msu.su>
Cc:        Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/fsck_ffs main.c
Message-ID:  <20080305222402.GA80407@crodrigues.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080305122029.GA7027@dg.local>
References:  <200803050825.m258Ppv2016738@repoman.freebsd.org> <20080305122029.GA7027@dg.local>

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On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 03:20:29PM +0300, Yar Tikhiy wrote:
> Your analysis of the problem sounds not quite correct to me.

You make some interesting points in your e-mail.
I suggest that you summarize the points and
post them to arch@ for further review and discussion.

There is how nmount() should work in an ideal world,
and then there is the existing implentation, which is
not exactly clean and perfect.  It is important as
we clean up the nmount() code in the tree, that we
keep things working without introducing too many hacks.

The problem with the mount code in FreeBSD is that a fix that
appears "correct" in one area, may break things somewhere else, because
that area has hacks/workarounds/improper coding/whatever 
that "just happened to work".  So while you may disagree with
the aesthetics of some of the mount patches.....I have been trying
to slowly migrate things over and clean things up in the various
mount binaries and file systems and still try to keep things working
the way they have before.  I've not been perfect and have made some
mistakes along the way, but I try to clean things up. 

My complaints with your mode of operation have been:
- you started committing in an area in which you don't have
  a lot of track record in working in
- you started breaking things in configurations you were 
  unable/unwilling/no time to fix or investigate
- you post long e-mails, or commit messages complaining about how
  you don't like how the mount code is structured or works, but your
  posts tend to look like rants

I agree with a lot of what you have posted, but you need to
be more constructive, and post your suggestions to arch@ to get
proper review and discussion going.

I know you mean well, but you need to slow down and direct your
focus more constructively....otherwise it looks like you are
ranting and doing drive-by commits.

Unfortunately, the mount code is core functionality, that when it
doesn't work properly, people complain *A LOT*, so treading carefully
is key.

Cheers.
-- 
Craig Rodrigues
rodrigc@crodrigues.org



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