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Date:      Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:14:19 -0600
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
Cc:        David Scheidt <dscheidt@enteract.com>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s
Message-ID:  <199906071914.NAA08597@mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906071503160.679-100000@picnic.mat.net>
References:  <Pine.NEB.3.96.990607135557.8162A-100000@shell-2.enteract.com> <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906071503160.679-100000@picnic.mat.net>

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> > > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s,
> > > so that they don't display in the build?  This is useless, it hides
> > > things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me.
> > > 
> > 
> > How often do your calls to ld, mv and rm fail? 
> 
> That's not the point, the point is that current is a bleeding edge
> thing, not production, and the details should not be hidden, there's no
> possible justification for that.

Sure there is, in the same manner that we don't use 'cc -v' as the
command line parameters to see *all* the excruciating details of how a
program is compiled.

The '@' calls are not considered important details, and as such are
hidden.  If we include *EVERYTHING* then finding the actual problem is
often much harder due to trying to wade through the noise.

The '@' commands help to reduce the noise, giving us a better
signal/noise ratio.


Nate


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