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Date:      Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:34:59 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Vivek Khera <khera@kciLink.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Stable List <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: nuking "unsafe" protocols (was Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons) 
Message-ID:  <200008251834.MAA18552@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:36:30 EDT." <14758.37502.989465.176825@onceler.kciLink.com> 
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In message <14758.37502.989465.176825@onceler.kciLink.com> Vivek Khera writes:
: Much more slick!  I like the idea of making rcmd(3) be ssh-aware, with
: fallback to rsh for compatibility.  It seems the only change I'll need
: to make to my backup process is to do it as a user of group operator
: rather than as root.  Not a big issue.

I have changes in my tree that ports the dump changes that OpenBSD did
a while ago to make dump/restore not setgid anymore.  But it requires
that I port changes to wall to support -g.  Alternatively, I need to
add group support to syslogd, which would be much more generic (thanks
to bde, I think, for this idea).  Now, all I need is a good syntax for
groups.

Right now you have
	/ -> log to file
	* -> all users
	@h -> log to host h
	| -> log to program
	u1,u2 -> log to users u1 and u2
and I'm thinking that : might be a good idea:
	:g -> log to all members of group g logged into the machine.

I'm not sure which way to go at this point.

Warner


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