Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:14:19 +0100 From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Steve Ames <steve@virtual-voodoo.com> Cc: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, scanner@jurai.net, Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au>, Yoshinobu Inoue <shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp>, louie@TransSys.COM, committers@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th Message-ID: <670.947193259@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:20:26 EST." <20000106152026.A98222@virtual-voodoo.com>
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In message <20000106152026.A98222@virtual-voodoo.com>, Steve Ames writes: >> On the other hand, there are *plenty* of things already in 4.0 that really >> need to get out there and get a workout by a larger audience. >> Delaying *them* is a big mistake. > >*shudder* I really, really dislike the idea of -RELEASE actually being a >wide beta so that some code can get a workout. Who said anything about -RELEASE being a beta ? Some parts of a release will always be new, but the majority of it is the same code we released as 3.X, 2.X and even 1.X. We need for people to stop thinking of FreeBSD as commercial software which comes in "natural number" style enumerable packets. FreeBSD style is "real number", it is a continuously evolving quantity which every now and then passes a natural number on the way to infinity. We can now spot a milestone called 4.0 and that's very nice, but we are not going to stop, because the road goes on past 4.0. I'm sorry you you can't have ${insert pet feature here} in 4.0 if it is not ready yet. That's too bad, check in later. In the meantime please enjoy: NTFS filesytem Netware support Jail facility Tons of new device drivers Netgraph etc, etc Isn't that just that very incomplete list worth a release ? FreeBSD-4.0 because now the time is right! Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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