Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:28:36 +0100 From: Christian Damm <christian.damm@diewebmaster.at> To: Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dspam data sizes Message-ID: <423BF0C4.7010009@diewebmaster.at> In-Reply-To: <a1a567d3ca8bd6cb5deb84956f48c678@lafn.org> References: <a69eae472f3393c88e9bfe3037443459@lafn.org> <423AB25E.3000909@diewebmaster.at> <a1a567d3ca8bd6cb5deb84956f48c678@lafn.org>
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Doug Hardie schrieb: > > On Mar 18, 2005, at 02:50, Christian Damm wrote: > >> >> this was discussed in detail (several times) on the dspam mailing list >> - search the archives: 'http://dspam.nuclearelephant.com/search.shtml'. >> >> you can extremely cut down your db size using different >> methods...which training method you are currently using? - once dspam >> is "mature" enough (training wise) it is (for example) a good idea to >> switch to TOE mode (train on error) if your user base is large - your >> db shrinks and the performance gain is big. >> >> Doug Hardie schrieb: >> >>> After seeing the recommendations here I am testing dspam. I >>> currently have 2 users testing it. They are at both extreme ends of >>> mail demands. My account gets about 1000 emails a day of which about >>> 25-30% are spam. The other account gets about 100 emails a day of >>> which about 90% are spam. So far, dspam is quarantining about 1/3rd >>> of the spam I receive. Is basically the same as Apple's mail >>> filtering. My mail is being sent to both. However, the storage of >>> the data used by dspam is a bit overwhealming. The storage is at 250 >>> MB for me and 20 MB for the other account. I have cut way down the >>> purge retention intervals which appears to help somewhat but not >>> enough. I have thousands of users and at 250 MB per user (it would >>> probably be a bit below that) its just not practical. How do other >>> users of dspam deal with this issue? Is there some setting I have >>> wrong (or at least not set most efficently)? > > > Thanks. I dug through the archives and it appears the recommend > approach is to use BDB4 as the backend with TOE mode, chained disabled, > and frequent dspam_clean -p0, and -s0 purges. My current setup is: from what i have seen/heard in the past: stay away from BDB - regarding dspam its really unreliable! dont know much about dspam`s quite new sqlite support, the postgresql support seems to have improved too...anyway, mysql is for sure the best choice if you wanna stay out of trouble. > > sqlite backend > TOE mode > nightly purges using the provided script but with the days reduced to 3. > Will have about 3K users when in production > chained has been disabled > I believe all other settings are default except that I have to use Home > directories for the data storage. sounds ok > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:423be1a7903811228318292! > -- mfg. christian damm technische leitung phone: dw 42 email: christian.damm@diewebmaster.at icq at work: 124464652 die webmaster - flötzerweg 156 - 4030 linz - austria phone: +43-732-381242 fax: +43-732-381242-22 isdn (leonardo): +43-732-381242-33 homepage: www.diewebmaster.at, public email: office@diewebmaster.at -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use mQGiBD6BdjoRBAD6ZEPqO2y3jbudyWuMfj+84mOAOFa13d+bHjNsx5M3IXl0KDjL LJZe7mO4aVX5Uo6zWskuVztXk4EdvIt96XkPweazYX7SN3w41QD6/lHGkQr5PO/b Qp/G2KLFLQXjXUJibXMbNK8j4RtSHPFwJAXVVVO2uigsCnanMbr5KXqQmQCg/w/q srHviHQuJXcfpTKB4ys2xnsEAOkLTDwQ5Z5SjRoAkxJywneOyG11uRqvlBaBNjyx 5mb0T+zh5ed0jmu1a91F5VRrXzAKyWfA4jc1/jpYpHpDW72bk8eF/WltxQ5LMfaJ nqPcNEukMkm/lGCfk+Prtktz9/MoRnhxHreEasEqhYILlPFjG0Tg4yd618TPuRdf qkR4A/0VCGzBPK289npn1ssIiNntOd0Dtu8UnbZGx4uPOP3jJP8awNH/XpV4Q8VZ ePoZnjamYjPGDPIiBtLI60Wx7z4tDXlqKSUy7GkddGw0dGnNyiiHu/ESjd2cYX8y /WkRnWyHcBRb4aEe4vYAt2PwP3Iemt9VMoPXJRQU6e6BkUzsbLQvQ2hyaXN0aWFu IERhbW0gPGNocmlzdGlhbi5kYW1tQGRpZXdlYm1hc3Rlci5hdD6JAFgEEBECABgF Aj6BdjoICwMJCAcCAQoCGQEFGwMAAAAACgkQjWTAFtIJONrURgCfWAdk77WMgOIL GAkzXJGUghdSufUAn2BNvaFF8f4SnqyVAX6MSCeZFQsouQINBD6BdjoQCAD2Qle3 CH8IF3KiutapQvMF6PlTETlPtvFuuUs4INoBp1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSG SfgMg71l6RfUodNQ+PVZX9x2Uk89PY3bzpnhV5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJ Zv8V+bv9kV7HAarTW56NoKVyOtQa8L9GAFgr5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgN RR0PfIizHHxbLY7288kjwEPwpVsYjY67VYy4XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv88 4bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy1obEAxnIByl6ypUM2Zafq9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsi GSa6q6Jew1XpMgs7AAICCADV9CD8D0TdkGRs7bKIzh8pc7uWAprhqLF6B/KdVo+k URDNWLVzpuR1ZVu612xLK/a7Q875P2DTdAuc1eBc0/5Q/jXH6pzo/lDmNbrFvJtu p+GRGyC3hJF25TBDRNhKfIQYT+9pm6sOyLw+mh+ruHKi+PEwvTQK/gPHr5GAGKor 0EmYdfIGm2t1kFSifCm+/1jeITtQedDAlcN8ESBY+b+gONa1H/7LdPrWHVUPUs9k WDwHFvTh8u28ixCcRaiT2wOkk7n+a2NPIe8LIznlbgwB8GK/7axIEXOBd0XyCyft pJxYDZ4kxtRAD6CnpqswCzSaGJmllGwFD4QyWKKIFgCwiQBMBBgRAgAMBQI+gXY6 BRsMAAAAAAoJEI1kwBbSCTjaiC8AoKfArhjrTMto6hm7gQFc7hh+9W6RAKDqZloe VR7EixSKaBhw5bZ5WUYM0Q== =l3K/ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
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