Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:16:08 -0400 From: "Ian Redden" <iredden@reddens.ca> To: "Pamela Patterson" <pamela.p@opendns.biz>, <george@durham.net>, "'Alain Parsons'" <aparsons@abacom.com> Cc: <ispchat@bell.ca>, <julie.taylor@bell.ca>, <julie.allain@bell.ca>, <marc.morin@bell.ca>, <mike.gosselin@bell.ca>, <joanne.page@bell.ca>, <sherwood.flemming@bell.ca>, <leslie.williams@bell.ca>, <ken.white@bell.ca>, <sheila.ward@bell.ca>, <j.steele@bell.ca>, <anita.archambault@bell.ca>, <f.dubois-beauchamp@bell.ca>, <joelle.picard@bell.ca>, <stephanie.riley@bell.ca>, <diane.cincar@bell.ca>, <list@iip.ca>, <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>, <caip-members@caip.ca> Subject: Re: Excess Capacity Message-ID: <001001c2075e$6f062870$c599d3cd@winxp1> References: <002001c206eb$1de7b1c0$20fea8c0@ddd> <013401c2075c$49044f00$91c03b8e@OK>
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Hey Guys! Myself, I havent had much luck with ISPCHAT as far as pricing goes. But I understand I am rural Ontario (layer 3) and understanding that, the pricing isnt so bad (I am still not going to pay the amount). --Ian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Patterson" <pamela.p@opendns.biz> To: <george@durham.net>; "'Alain Parsons'" <aparsons@abacom.com> Cc: <ispchat@bell.ca>; <julie.taylor@bell.ca>; <julie.allain@bell.ca>; <marc.morin@bell.ca>; <mike.gosselin@bell.ca>; <joanne.page@bell.ca>; <sherwood.flemming@bell.ca>; <leslie.williams@bell.ca>; <ken.white@bell.ca>; <sheila.ward@bell.ca>; <j.steele@bell.ca>; <anita.archambault@bell.ca>; <f.dubois-beauchamp@bell.ca>; <joelle.picard@bell.ca>; <stephanie.riley@bell.ca>; <diane.cincar@bell.ca>; <list@iip.ca>; <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>; <caip-members@caip.ca> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Excess Capacity > This happens after a long day at two keyboards, and 4 monitors. How about > this for a comment? > > Its not in the Telco's best interest to sell at great prices to ISP's. They > want it all! > > Cheers. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Ramos" <george@durham.net> > To: "'Pamela Patterson'" <pamela.p@opendns.biz>; "'Alain Parsons'" > <aparsons@abacom.com> > Cc: <ispchat@bell.ca>; <julie.taylor@bell.ca>; <julie.allain@bell.ca>; > <marc.morin@bell.ca>; <mike.gosselin@bell.ca>; <joanne.page@bell.ca>; > <sherwood.flemming@bell.ca>; <leslie.williams@bell.ca>; <ken.white@bell.ca>; > <sheila.ward@bell.ca>; <j.steele@bell.ca>; <anita.archambault@bell.ca>; > <f.dubois-beauchamp@bell.ca>; <joelle.picard@bell.ca>; > <stephanie.riley@bell.ca>; <diane.cincar@bell.ca>; <list@iip.ca>; > <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>; <caip-members@caip.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 02:30 > Subject: RE: Excess Capacity > > > > I'm sorry Pamela, I don't get your point. I get my pricing from ISPCHAT, > > these guys are not fat cat salespeople, they are actuallt our support > people > > at Bell. > > Why would they behave in the fashion that you described?...., I mean, in > > theory there is no reason for that... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pamela Patterson [mailto:pamela.p@opendns.biz] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:44 PM > > To: Alain Parsons; George Ramos > > Cc: ispchat@bell.ca; julie.taylor@bell.ca; julie.allain@bell.ca; > > marc.morin@bell.ca; mike.gosselin@bell.ca; joanne.page@bell.ca; > > sherwood.flemming@bell.ca; leslie.williams@bell.ca; ken.white@bell.ca; > > sheila.ward@bell.ca; j.steele@bell.ca; anita.archambault@bell.ca; > > f.dubois-beauchamp@bell.ca; joelle.picard@bell.ca; > > stephanie.riley@bell.ca; diane.cincar@bell.ca; list@iip.ca; > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; caip-members@caip.ca > > Subject: Re: Excess Capacity > > > > > > How many Clec's do you think there are with "Excess Capacity" and > marketing > > people refusing to sell it ? How many colo's are vacant but, the sales > guy > > wants that one big sale, so no discounts? We see it all the time. Sales & > > Marketing (Price Fixers) have driven many a CLEC to bankruptcy. > > > > On another note: Tommorrow I think is the day the CRTC is supposed to > issue > > a ruling on the fee's Clec's pay to ILec's. Should be interesting. > > > > Pamela Patterson > > > > * We are Sales Driven - Not Process Driven * > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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