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Date:      Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:32:50 -0700
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
To:        Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: build tools as separate distribution 
Message-ID:  <87599.967663970@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com>  of "Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:08:12 EDT." <20000830140812.Q33771@jade.chc-chimes.com> 

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> On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 11:02:33AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> 
> > JKH said he plans on having sysinstall changed for 5.0 and true packages.
> > Thus why he said it wasn't worth the effort in -current.  I don't think
> > he wanted to rock the boat in -stable.
> 
> Are these the same plans from 5 years ago?

Your wise-ass comments aside, I think that there are a number of
things which are driving us to NOT just hack-hack-hack on sysinstall
some more and attempt to accomplish by behind-the-scenes trickery what
should be accomplished by a proper mechanism, I.E. having all the
fundamental building blocks be proper packages and "bin" simply a
meta-package which depends on those packages which comprise what we
currently consider "the bindist."

Since it's also far easier to be a back-seat driver on issues like
this than to actually assist the process, I would welcome your coding
contributions to making this happen rather than just suggesting that
we tangle our existing mess even further.

- Jordan


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