Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 22:06:32 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm <andreas@freebsd.org> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster Message-ID: <20030908200632.GA49154@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030901190947.03327e80@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030901143026.029afce0@localhost> <1062427379.15322.12.camel@suzy.unbreakable.homeunix.org> <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> <1062427379.15322.12.camel@suzy.unbreakable.homeunix.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20030901143026.029afce0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030901190947.03327e80@localhost>
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On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:22:54PM -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > If you install FreeBSD and KDE, you'll find that a tremendous number of > BASIC things -- not just the fancy GUI stuff -- work with difficulty or > not at all. I use KDE for about a year. Whats wrong with it ? It suits my needs better than any other desktop thats currently available for Unix. And at the same time its more useful as for example Solaris 8's CDE ... The builtin scp functionality within the browser for example is really useful when working in a secure environment (fish:// ...). Yes, some fancy stuff might not work or isn't ported yet, but nevertheless *what you got now* is good enough. I understand, in a perfect world we would have a shiny desktop with BSD copyright ... but I'd say stop that whining. I doubt there such an effort happening. And I remember an article from Jordan Hubbard, that one of the biggest mistakes of Unix in the past was the GUI war. Making it a nightmare to develop applications for differend blands of Unix ... Therefore I think we don't need another desktop, all we need are some tough guys who make the necessary work to resolve all remaining bugs or missing features in KDE and GNOME. Of course, it would be fine, if all the teams would agree on one set of programming libraries and separate their work in - desktop related and - application related things. Then all people would work on a superb nice looking GUI, on superb applications using that GUI and nobody would have to invent the wheels again and again. So to say the world doesn't need the 10th editor, etc etc, all the redundancies KDE and GNOME bring ... But its the same with everything. One true Unix would also be enough, but it seems that people can't agree on, how it should look like ;-)))) Don't take me too serious, its -chat here ;-) Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Need a magic printfilter today ? -> http://www.apsfilter.org/
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