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Date:      Sat, 20 Aug 2005 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jon Dama <jd@ugcs.caltech.edu>
To:        Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@crodrigues.org>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: XFS for FreeBSD, new snapshot available
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.53.0508200043110.30207@vomit.ugcs.caltech.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20050819143741.GA11399@crodrigues.org>
References:  <20050819015327.GA7627@crodrigues.org> <86fyt6gyds.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050819120309.GA10568@crodrigues.org> <86vf22dswg.fsf@xps.des.no> <4305D7FA.2070900@portaone.com> <20050819143741.GA11399@crodrigues.org>

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I'd just like to say,

I'm really glad to see this work going on.

On another note though (and I don't claim this applies in this case), the
gradual adoption of the practice by various developers to squirl away
changes to FreeBSD in their private repositories is responsible for a
substantial loss in quality in the subsequent releases.

I realize a less active -current is easier on developers--I ran
5.0-current throughout much of its life-- -current become down right
pedestrian most of the time.

Changes need more eyeballs + users at incremental stages than current
development practices seem to enable.  Yes it is more work to make a
series of chuncked commits to -current but the reward is early detection
of mistakes, clear intermediate states to revert to and rethink, and
better feedback from the rest of the community.

I think -core needs to step-up and re-evaluate the perforce approach.

Is it really better?

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Craig Rodrigues wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 04:00:42PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> > >You'll get more feedback if the code is in the tree, and there is
> > >precedent for committing filessystems without write support.
>
> While I understand that this has been done for other filesystems,
> I am not going to put XFS into the FreeBSD tree until I feel
> that it is ready.  The source code and patches are available
> for people to try, so just because something is not in the tree,
> it does not preclude interested developers and users from
> trying it out and providing feedback/patches.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Craig Rodrigues
> rodrigc@crodrigues.org
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