Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:59:09 -0800 From: Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Re: exFAT is no longer encumbered Message-ID: <CABx9NuQvp5-J37ZmCmh6cNz4V0oXnV5xyq=SuXunbT0FJVJyKQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <SN6PR04MB5021821432ABCF8D5F1BA48C80270@SN6PR04MB5021.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: <1921981.4WAli8B44Z@no.place.like.home> <20191230013752.GA74518@neutralgood.org> <CAP7rwcg=PExuCP0S=FykdkcW4-cnEa35mQfSfzVC8Ku8JmjKFg@mail.gmail.com> <SN6PR04MB5021821432ABCF8D5F1BA48C80270@SN6PR04MB5021.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:41 AM Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated: > >On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:38 PM Kevin P. Neal <kpn@neutralgood.org> > >wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 01:01:52AM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: > >> > As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent restrictions > >> > on exFAT[1]. > >> > > >> > Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed from > >> > sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the FreeBSD base > >> > system (like msdosfs) one day? > >> > > >> > > >> > [1] > >> > < > https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2019/08/28/exfat-linux-kernel/ > > > >> > > >> > >> I'm not sure that counts as a license. IANAL, but I'd like to see an > >> explicit granting of a license to anyone at no cost, and the license > >> needs to be transferable. > >> > >> The way Berkeley eliminated the advertising clause was good. Simply > >> saying "Microsoft is supporting the addition of" doesn't really say > >> anything. It's a statement of corporate direction and nothing else. > > > >Expanding on what Kevin said, > > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx > >suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before, > >and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module > >that they submitted. > > > >The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in > >commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to > >relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL. > > > ># Adam > > I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing > and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject. > > http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing > On my phone the site displays a "Contoso, Ltd." title (That's Microsoft's pretend company for all it's examples). The IP Address resolves to a seemingly non-Microsoft server: waws-prod-bay-059.cloudapp.net [23.99.91.55]. To boot, there is no corporate branding or other links back to the Microsoft site. Forgive me, but it seems like a terrible idea to submit information to that site. > > -- > Carmel >
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