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Date:      Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:34:54 -0600
From:      Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org>
To:        Freek Nossin <freeknossin@tiscali.nl>
Cc:        FreeBSD-Newbies@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: It's time to shut down this list.
Message-ID:  <41D17D1E.60201@nbritton.org>
In-Reply-To: <20041228145253.550658DC026@ha-smtp1.tiscali.nl>
References:  <20041228145253.550658DC026@ha-smtp1.tiscali.nl>

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Freek Nossin wrote:

><snip>
>
> From time to time people have asked for a place for new users to
>ask for technical help. That place is, and has always been,
>FreeBSD-Questions. If you want a separate group for that, then you
>have an issue that has nothing to do with the present discussion.
>If there ever were a mailing list for newbie tech support, it would
>NOT be this one, it would NOT be this one, do I make myself clear?
>A new mailing list would have to be created for the purpose, with a
>different name as well as a different list charter. 
>
></snip>
>
>I do not see the problem in keeping this list.
>First you tell us that the original purpose of this list is not of this time
>anymore. So IF this list still had that purpose as its right to exist, in
>THAT case the list should be removed (I agree with that). 
>
>But that isn't the case, obviously. The list is now used by people who don't
>want to post in the -questions mailing list for various reasons. Now you
>tell us that there must start a new mailing list for questions that. But
>why? This mailing list exists already and its name that used to be wrongly
>chosen (with the old purpose), now DOES cover the idea of the list. 
>
>I do think that people that start with freebsd should have a place where
>they can ask "stupid" questions, separate from -questions. There are a
>number of reasons to do that, but in the past few days they've been summed
>up a number of times, so I won't bother you all with that. 
>
>If this list must close for some reason and there is room for a "newbie
>corner", than I would suggest to create a -questions and a -advanced, or
>something like that. 
>
>
>
>Ed
>
>
>  
>
Ok, I have a solution to the problems at hand. Delete this list and 
"charter" then start a new list named freebsd-newbies and make up a new 
"charter" with the inclusion of basic newbie help questions. I see this 
as the only real solution to this problem as every one here seems to get 
all bent out of shape when you don't follow a charter, rule, or some 
other obscure thing so lets just skirt around the issue and use this 
loop hole so we can have are calk and eat it to.



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