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Date:      Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:52:17 -0500
From:      Super Bisquit <superbisquit@gmail.com>
To:        matt <sendtomatt@gmail.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Stupid questions on installing
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Everything is done at home and then I get a few miles walk to connect
to the internet.
Ok: Do I need to reset with ctrl+opt+p+r?

Thanks for the help and patience.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Super Bisquit <superbisquit@gmail.com> wrote:
> The output-device needs to be reset to screen.
> I tested 9.0-RELEASE both iso and memstick and they don't fully boot.
> Nathan, have you tested the images in qemu recently? They seem to be
> crapping out some.
>
> I also need someone with a powerboo or an ibook to tell me what the
> output-device is: is it output-device screen or output-device-1
> screen?
>
> I wanted to use 9.0 being that I already have a small repository built
> for that release.
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, matt <sendtomatt@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/16/2013 01:26, Super Bisquit wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM, matt <sendtomatt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 01/16/2013 00:05, Super Bisquit wrote:
>>
>>  I'd like to know if anyone has used the memstick image to
>> install FreeBSD to a PowerpC32 machine and what was done to the usb
>> device with the dd command.
>>
>> Yes, G4 MDD FW400. Also boots OS9, NetBSD, OpenBSD this way. OS X might
>> work, didn't care to try.
>>
>> pv -ptre memstick.img | dd of=/dev/da0 obs=2M
>>
>> pv just for the progress bar because I hate dd's reticence. 2M because
>> it was fastest for that particular usb stick. Otherwise nothing fancy.
>>
>> I'll use the reference that you have here to run the dd command.
>> Still, did you need to format it to hfs or not?
>>
>> Booting with option sometimes worked. Sometimes claim failed or it would
>> spit out other nonsense (I thought adler was a german bird...)
>> Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\\:tbxi caused screen corruption
>> for a moment and sometimes worked
>> Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\ppc\boot1.elf worked every time
>> Where blah is usb@X[,Y]
>>
>> Since you can redirect OF to telnet, at least this stage can be easier
>> if you can blind type those commands and have a telnet client available
>> on another machine.
>>
>> Will I need to add the dhcp server to the second machine in order to
>> run the telnet interface?
>>
>> Naturally installing is quite slow over usb 1.1, with a random NEC based
>> USB2.0 card I was also able to install much faster.
>>
>> I know that debian has a ttyUSBX available but that doesn't seem to be
>> the issue with FreeBSD.
>>
>> No idea about serial console, I only have the weird internal modem
>> connector and I haven't figured out how to get a TTL console on it yet.
>> No pinout appears available, although the traces seem to indicate some
>> likely pins...
>>
>> Do you have something like a G4port on the Titanium? I assume G4 modem
>> header 5v/3.3v TTL maybe?
>>
>> I'm not sure. I'll see what the OF commands say when I run them at the
>> forth prompt.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> I may have gotten slightly confused between the couple messages. I thought a
>> hardware serial port was involved.
>>
>> As far as OpenFirmware via telnet:
>> http://www.fenestrated.net/~macman/mirrors/Apple%20Technotes%20(As%20of%202002)/tn/tn2004.html
>>
>> No DHCP server is necessary, but you'll have to type the commands mentioned
>> in the technote blind.
>> Once you're in, you can possibly set the boot-command to the correct telnet
>> command or put it in an nvramrc.
>>
>> Did we ever have an OF-only syscons for FreeBSD (probably early on)? I
>> wonder if it would also go over telnet...
>>
>> Personally I would do a DESTDIR=  install over firewire in target disk mode
>> preferably in this situation, then chroot to it on the host and configure it
>> to get sshd running...
>> Once setup just reboot the titanium and ssh in.
>> This should be possible from any FreeBSD system with firewire since we can
>> cross-build world and kernel.
>>
>> As far as USB:
>>
>> I didn't format anything. I tested 9.1-RC3, I can test release tomorrow. I
>> just dd the image onto the stick, I may have zeroed the first couple
>> megabytes first to "clean" off any junk.
>>
>> My G4 will not always try to boot from USB, it has to be directed to do so
>> via the Option menu. It might try if there was no other bootable disk, can't
>> remember.
>> USB is *not* hotplug for Openfirmware, so put the stick in before you turn
>> on the machine.
>>
>> I did have a variety of errors trying to boot the stick directly at times,
>> especially with different releases and even other BSDs. The most reliable
>> way to boot it was to type the full path to the boot1.elf in OF. If it fails
>> you have to reboot to get OF clean again.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>



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