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Date:      Wed, 15 May 2019 19:15:04 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
To:        Matt Garber <matt.garber@gmail.com>
Cc:        Will Andrews <will@firepipe.net>, FreeBSD Stable ML <stable@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <hackers@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Core Team <core@freebsd.org>, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins.
Message-ID:  <201905151715.x4FHF4eC068579@fire.js.berklix.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message "Wed, 15 May 2019 12:16:37 -0400." <6CE35CEB-C2AB-47B1-AA86-BC9C91B2B8A6@gmail.com>

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Thanks Will,
You make some good points, but all depend on variant circustances.

I prefer to be informed ASAP, to make my own decisons with max info ASAP,
Not delayed.  I want freebsd.org to Not Delay fix announcements into batches.

If other admins want to delay being told told to do upgrades until
there's lots more to consider & upgrade, they can dummy the delay
their receive end, just filtering announcements into their own
special box they read once per period.

As soon as exploits are in the wild, some will exploit,
not announcing until binary updates are ready gives black hats more time.


>  Whatever other negative things you can say about them, I don't hear enterprise admins begging that Microsoft/Oracle/whoever would dribble out patches one at a time each week instead of combining them like they do; it seems like it works just fine for everyone else.

MS make lots of money from the addicted cluless, despite MS loosers
frequently complain eg that PCs are locked up again in mid auto
update & owner can't shut down to catch a plane or train. MS servers
I avoid like the plague.

PS Here seems (*) an example of something in text config didnt even
need to wait for src/ let alone bin. * Not sure, I'll try it later,
got to dash off line.

https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2019-May/001878.html
] IV.  Workaround
] Use 'restrict noquery' in the ntpd configuration to limit addresses that
] can send mode 6 queries.

Cheers,
Julian
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