Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 21:21:49 +0300
From: Sulev-Madis Silber <freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee>
To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: openat("./...", O_CREAT) fails even though the directory exists
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On October 13, 2025 9:06:02 PM GMT+03:00, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd=2Eo= rg> wrote: >=2E=2E=2E > >On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 at 03:23, Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd=2Eorg> wrote: > >> Olivier Certner wrote in <6142242=2EZv9zXsTiuT@ravel>: >> > > i suspect the fix will be in pkgbase somewhere: for example, we >> > > could restart sendmail on upgrade, or tell the user to do that=2E >> > >> > Most probably it will need too, yes=2E >> >> proposed fix at https://reviews=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/D53061=2E i really don= 't like >> this (nothing else restarts services on upgrade) but this is probably t= he >> least disruptive solution for users=2E >> > >I'm curious - why are we NOT restarting services after an upgraded packag= e? > > >-a i hope this wasn't proposal of blanket restarts everywhere=2E this could g= et bad quickly=2E i recall friends cursing linux distros going one step fur= ther, starting everything that's installed with default config many things would happily run after update, nginx even has special no inte= rrupt upgrade which replaces binary for sshd it would maybe ok but who knows=2E all around restarting is bad= =2E at least optout would be needed what if it needs config change or other kind of adjustments before admin d= ecides to restart it=2E or wants to choose time
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