Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:50:13 +0300 From: Jeff Laine <wtf.jlaine@gmail.com> To: Barnaby Scott <bds@waywood.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine without X Message-ID: <20090326225013.GA1069@free.bsd.loc> In-Reply-To: <49CBB771.4090704@waywood.co.uk> References: <49CB957F.30807@waywood.co.uk> <20090326112408.8cf4aa95.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <49CBB771.4090704@waywood.co.uk>
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On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 05:12:17PM +0000, Barnaby Scott wrote: > Bill Moran wrote: > >In response to Barnaby Scott <bds@waywood.co.uk>: > > > >>I'm sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but I have tried elsewhere > >>and go no response. > >> > >>I want to install wine, but without X on the system. > > > >Why would you expect this to be possible? The GUI is an integral part > >of MS Windows ... I can't imagine how wine would work at all without X > >installed -- which is probably why you're not getting any answers. > > > >Perhaps you should back up and consider what you're trying to accomplish. > >If you don't need a GUI, then what programs do you expect to run under > >wine, and is there some better way to get them? > > > > Thanks for your reply > > I know this is possible because I have seen discussion of it in Linux > and wine forums. I'm just too inexperienced to know which bits of the > instructions are OS-specific, and what other nightmares I might face. I > might be able to figure it all out by weeks of trial and error, but that > seems crazy if someone has been there before me! > > As for why I want it to run, that is because the application I want to > run is a bolt-on to a specific bit of rendering software that we use, > and there really is no viable non-Windows replacement in our situation - > believe me, if there was, I'd be using it. (In case you care, we are > talking about Vray for Rhino, which we use because we use Rhino, and > because we use Rhino we chose RhinoCAM, and because we chose RhinoCAM I > spent weeks writing software to make it talk to our CNC equipment, whose > controller is inextricably Windows-based... you get the picture!) > > In answer to the other replies (thanks to you guys too): > > Yes, wine is fine with just the command prompt. It is somewhat confusing > in that it offers a thing called wineconsole, but ironically that *does* > appear to require X. Just using wine without X is fine, so long as the > app does not attempt to open any sort of window, system tray etc. > > As for the 'cluttering' - I'm not so worried about disk space, that's > cheap these days. It's more a question of updating ports. When I once > made the mistake of installing X and various other things I turned out > not to need, the process of updating everything became a nightmare - > stuff breaking because I hadn't read the updating info for a bunch of > fonts or something stupid like that. Multiply that by 3 servers, and, > well, no thanks! wineconsole app seems working fine in terminal with no X at all. I ran it like this: ./wineconsole --backend=curses cmd -- Best regards, Jeff | "Nobody wants to say how this works. | | Maybe nobody knows ..." | | Xorg.conf(5) |
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