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Date:      Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:07:13 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Drew Derbyshire <software@kew.com>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Postfix and Majordomo security (was FreeBSD Ports Security Advisory: FreeBSD-SA-01:INSERT_NUMBER_HERE)
Message-ID:  <20010211090713.B50667@mollari.cthul.hu>
In-Reply-To: <009c01c093e5$d1cd7230$94cba8c0@hh.kew.com>; from software@kew.com on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 11:48:04PM -0500
References:  <200102082014.PAA29877@vws3.interlog.com> <009c01c093e5$d1cd7230$94cba8c0@hh.kew.com>

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On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 11:48:04PM -0500, Drew Derbyshire wrote:

> Since the FreeBSD site runs postfix, the fix to block external postings to
> the announce list is a Postfix FAQ, using a regular expression filter.  This
> would require direct trusted posters to go through a local (or otherwise
> trusted IP), and cannot be beaten by forged headers.  (Hint, hint!)

It was a broken filter rule which allowed the mail in - this has been fixed.

> In general, I'm amazed that after all the SPAM on the FreeBSD mailing lists
> that they haven't gone to post-only-by subscribers in general -- clearly,
> the maintainers don't seem to care about the lists's quality as much as some
> of the subscribers do.  Yes, yes, I've heard the "but we need to let any one
> post ..." argument, and refuse to believe it given hackish nature of the
> FreeBSD mailing lists, and general disdain for end-users.

This is a blatant troll, IMO, so I'll ignore it.

> (Linux will rule the world, because organizations like RedHat support
> relatively clean binary patches using up2date between releases  -- it makes
> me sad when I compare this to FreeBSD securty advisories which offer choices
> of source patches or "upgrade to Release 4.x-STABLE after the specified"
> date, given that such configurations have a prereq of reading the -stable
> mailing list and generally breathing FreeBSD.)

Making binary patches is something we'd very much like to do, but it
requires significant support and testing infrastructure, which no-one
has come forward to provide so far.  How sad does it make you?  Sad
enough to do something about it, or only a little bit sad so that
you'll just complain about it but won't bother?

Kris

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