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Date:      Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:27:38 -0600
From:      lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca
To:        "Louis A. Mamakos" <louie@TransSys.COM>
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Dinosaur ? Unicast : Multicast ;-)
Message-ID:  <199909162227.QAA58562@orthanc.ab.ca>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:16:54 EDT." <199909162216.SAA93183@whizzo.transsys.com> 

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>>>>> "Louis" == Louis A Mamakos <louie@TransSys.COM> writes:

    Louis> They don't give a whiz about multicast or unicast; they
    Louis> just want to click on the link and have noise come out of
    Louis> the speaker.  Ideally, they'd like to use the stuff already
    Louis> on their PC, and that's Real or Media Player.

Media Player hints that it can receive and play multicast streams. I
haven't tried it, but if it works it shouldn't be hard to cook up
a URL that launches it with the appropriate settings to receive the
feed.

    Louis> Commercially, content providers don't care about multicast
    Louis> either, other than as an optimization to help reach some of
    Louis> their audience more cost effectively.  They are more
    Louis> interested in getting eyeballs and ear, regardless of the
    Louis> delivery mechanism.  It's just exactly this point which is
    Louis> the reason you don't see widespread commercial deployment
    Louis> of "mbone" applications.

That's *not* what the vendors presenting papers at the latest
ACM SIGCOMM[1] were saying. They've finally realized that there's no
hope at all of providing commercial services based on unicast
technology; there simply is not enough bandwidth out there. I
fully expect to see the big content providers to start offering
multicast based services by early next year.

--lyndon

[1] Which was shipped around the world via multicast, not Realvideo :-)


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