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Date:      Sun, 15 Nov 2015 16:04:33 +0300
From:      Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
Cc:        John Marino <dragonflybsd@marino.st>, NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" <testing@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests
Message-ID:  <564882E1.5050404@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20151115130009.GC93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
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On 15.11.2015 16:00, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 03:56:26PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
>> On 15.11.2015 15:46, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 03:24:19PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
>>>> On 15.11.2015 10:09, John Marino wrote:
>>>> ISO8859-1 locales are legacy even if obsoleted in modern world (I ag=
ree
>>>> with that). Lots of ports (even at configure stage!) have checks for=

>>>> them. Since we generate locales from CLDR now, it will be no cost to=

>>>> bring all 8859-1 back to not violate POLA and not fix every failing =
port.
>>>>
>>> Exp-run have been made and no ports were failing with the removed loc=
ales.
>>
>> There is soft-fail, configure just marks that locales are not supporte=
d
>> and use "C". Sorry I don't remember port names where I saw it right no=
w
>> and don't have a time to search for them right now too. Soft-fails (li=
ke
>> in tcl with nl_langinfo) are almost impossible to detect excepting
>> specific situation happens or source code inspection. Do we ever need
>> them when there is no harm to keep 8859-1 locales?
>=20
> Is it ok if I readd those locales as aliases on 8859-15?

It is hacking solution leads to wrong collating order and character
classes. It is better to generate true 8859-1 just in the same way you
already do for 8859-15.

BTW, I can't check right now, but in case 8859-5 is removed too, it is
better to restore it, it was used in Suns as their standard Russian
encoding.

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