Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:21:40 CEST From: "Julien Clauzel" <jclauzel@hotmail.com> To: wer@cstone.net Cc: jfmays@launchpad.win.net, davew@sai.co.za, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Subject: Re: Moving mail to another server for 700 accounts Message-ID: <F615SghWb25ZbfpOC4u00000584@hotmail.com>
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Thx Bill for you're feedback. We are moving the mail to an other platform...
so we cannont move the passwd file. I was thinking of patching the pop3
daemon if we have source code (to dump login,passwds) but then we miss impa4
users, so we have to patch that too. But the trouble is i think that most
imap4 clients encrypts passwds... oki, i understant we can tcpdump but then
how to revert imap4 encrypted passwds ?
Julien
>From: Bill Reid <wer@cstone.net>
>To: Julien Clauzel <jclauzel@hotmail.com>
>CC: jfmays@launchpad.win.net, davew@sai.co.za, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG,
>sendmail-questions@sendmail.org
>Subject: Re: Moving mail to another server for 700 accounts
>Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 05:07:18 -0400
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>Probably the best thing to do is sniff them. If it is a non unix machine
>you
>may not be able to use the encrypted passwords. I don't know all of the
>types
>but they may not match up. It should be pretty obvious if you look at the
>size
>of the string. If it is the same type encryption then just move the
>encrypted
>string similar to how you moved the mail.
>
>We just went the other way (from post.office on a Digital Unix System to
>sendmail on FreeBSD) and installed a sniffer. sniff is what we used. As
>for
>the mail... it was very similar to what you did using formail and procmail.
>Still there was the need to strip a ^M off of every line between formail
>and
>procmail because netscape was confusing the headers.. My buddy Joe said it
>was
>formail inserting the ^M. I still have not figured out why.
>
>cat /etc/master.passwd will show you the encrypted strings. you can | cut
>-d":"
>-f1,2 to get the usernames:encrypted strings.
>
>cat /etc/master.passwd | ut -d":" -f1,2
>
>What type of system is the mail being moved too?
>
>11,000 moved gave us a little trouble. :)
>aliases, listserv,forwards,blah blah.
>post.office is not a real mail server.
>
>later,
>-=Bill
>
>Julien Clauzel wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > What about the users password how do you manage to export them is there
>a
> > way to do that easyly?
> >
> > Julien
> >
> > >From: "Joe Mays" <jfmays@launchpad.win.net>
> > >To: "Dave Wilson" <davew@sai.co.za>, <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > >CC: <sendmail-questions@sendmail.org>
> > >Subject: Re: Moving mail to another server for 700 accounts
> > >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:20:25 -0400
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> > >Not sure if I've missed something, but it looks to me like all you need
>is
> > >
> > >#/bin/sh
> > >for USERNAME in `cat listofusernames.txt`
> > > do
> > > formail -b -Y -f -s /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi
>$USERNAME@new.mail.server
> > ><
> > >/var/mail/$USERNAME
> > > done
> > >exit
> > >
> > >where "listofusernames.txt" is a text file containing a list of all the
> > >usernames to be moved.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Dave Wilson" <davew@sai.co.za>
> > >To: <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > >Cc: <sendmail-questions@sendmail.org>
> > >Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:22 PM
> > >Subject: Moving mail to another server for 700 accounts
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi guys, howzit going ?
> > > >
> > > > I have been given the wonderful *not* job of moving 700 mail
>accounts to
> > >a
> > > > non-unix mail server.
> > > > I have a little script that Phillip(FreeBSD-ISP list *thanks*)
>helped me
> > >out
> > > > with that allows me to move each mail accounts data to a specified
>SMTP
> > > > server, the only problem is that I can only do it one account at a
>time
> > > > ....which would be a bit tiresome with 700 mail accounts
> > > > This is the script Phillip gave me which works perfectly for one
>user at
> > >a
> > > > time:
> > > >
> > > > formail -b -Y -f -s /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi $USERNAME@new.mail.server
><
> > > > /var/mail/$USERNAME
> > > >
> > > > So what I would type is:
> > > > formail -b -Y -f -s /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi user1@new.mail.server <
> > > > /var/mail/user1
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that I would have to do this for each account ie.
>user1,
> > > > user2, user3 etc. all the way up to user700.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know how I can get all 700 accounts across in one go ?
> > > > I have tried various bash variables etc. to get this working but
>don't
> > >seem
> > > > to have any luck
> > > > Don't laugh, but this is one way I tried ;-) :
> > > >
> > > > # awk -F: '$3 > 100 { print $1}' /etc/passwd > /etc/mail/everyone
> > >#Gets
> > > > all users listed on /etc/mail/everyone
> > > > # ALLUSERS=`cat /etc/mail/everyone`
> > > > #Sets the variable for all my users
> > > > # formail -b -Y -f -s /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi
>$ALLUSERS@new.mail.server
> > ><
> > > > /var/mail/$ALLUSERS #Tries to mail the whole lot off.
> > > >
> > > > Doing the above led to sendmail or bash or something complaing about
>an
> > > > "ambiguous redirect" ??
> > > >
> > > > I donno, I'm really lost and don't feel like spending 5 hours moving
> > >each
> > > > accounts' mail separately, please help if you can.... I would
>appreciate
> > >it
> > > > a hell of a lot.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Dave Wilson
> > > > The S.A. Internet
> > > > (033) 3456777
> > > > 0825496159
> > > > http://www.sai.co.za
> > > > "Who is "General Failure", and what is he doing reading my hard disk
>?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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