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Date:      Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:34:31 +0100
From:      =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_R=E5ness?= <geir@dropzone.as>
To:        "Kerberus" <kerberus@microbsd.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Reliable shell logs
Message-ID:  <20020212021218.DC5DA9F006@okeeffe.bestweb.net>

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Yes it is, thanks for it.
I have seen the shell patches before but not the bash secure patch..
:)

Best Regards

Geir Råness
PulZ @ efnet

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerberus" <kerberus@microbsd.net>
To: "Geir Råness" <geir@dropzone.as>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: Reliable shell logs


Hrmmm looks like the file i sent over!! : ))

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 08:20, Geir Råness wrote:
> Yeah, i have put them up at www.pulz.no/files/freebsd/Logging
> Read the readme files in them, and you probaly would find the url to the
> folx who made the patches...
>
> You can infact remove an users right to change his shell, this you could
do
> by limiting the users access to chsh and so on,  you could set it to wheel
> group only.
> Or you could remove the shell from the /etc/shells (i think).
>
> Best Regards
>
> Geir Råness
> PulZ @ efnet
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@rambo.simx.org>
> To: "Geir Råness" <geir@dropzone.as>
> Cc: <petko@freebsd-bg.org>; <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Reliable shell logs
>
>
> > Geir Råness wrote:
> >
> > > You always could set your users to the shell bash, that is patched
with
> the
> > > "bofh" logging.
> > > That's one way you could secure log your users, but it could be found.
> > > It all depends on the intruder.
> >
> >
> > Do you know where I could find this patch?
> > I tried google.com/bsd and found a bounch of sh patches, but
> > none for bash.
> > And what stops the user from changing his shell? 'chsh'
> > would let him change shell to csh, tcsh or whatever is
> > available on the system, right? How can I prevent this?
> >
> > > This you can do something about however,  you can have an locale log
> server,
> > > that the "shell" server sends the log to,
> > > with upload access only.
> > > So the intruder cant delete the logs, you probaly shuld make this
server
> an
> > > local login only.
> > >
> > > Geir Råness
> > > PulZ @ efnet
> >
> >
> > --
> > R
> >
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