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Date:      Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:54:51 +0800
From:      chinsan <chinsan.tw@gmail.com>
To:        "Giorgos Keramidas" <keramida@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org, Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml
Message-ID:  <1f27304c0707200454h4b842da7jb2de8327968faee5@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20070719125410.GA9766@kobe.laptop>
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On 7/19/07, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 2007-07-19 01:13, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>>     en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports chapter.sgml
> >>>   Log:
> >>>   - Introduce another way for upgrading packages and ports using bpkg(8).
> >>
> >> I'm not sure the Handbook has the vocation to talk about all
> >> available tools to manage ports and packages.  [...]
> >
> > FWIW, I (with portmaster author hat on) am sort of ambivalent about
> > this issue. I've avoided adding anything to that chapter about
> > portmaster because my personal feeling is that a laundry list of
> > tools isn't useful to the user, especially if all the descriptions
> > are the same size as the ones that are there now.
> >
> > What I think would be more useful (and again, I'm speaking only for
> > myself) would be a list of tools available with a brief description
> > of each, and links to outside sources (web pages, pkg-descr files,
> > etc.) where an interested user can get more information. I do think
> > that letting our users know that there are tools available is a good
> > thing, I don't think mini-manuals for each tool is appropriate in
> > that context.
>
> This sounds nice.
>
> It would also be nice to have articles like:
>
>     "Managing thirdparty ports & packages with portupgrade"
>     "Managing thirdparty ports & packages with portmaster"
>     "Managing thirdparty ports & packages with XXX"
>
> in the doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/... collection, so the Handbook
> can talk about the general, common ideas behind port management, and
> the articles can turn into mini-manuals.

umm.. good suggestion. I'll revert it back and rewitre a mini article.

>
> It may even be possible to talk about one or two (the 'official' port
> management tools), and then move the rest into separate articles.  If
> the tools mentioned in the articles get 'official' status or one of
> the currently official tools gets dropped, or gets stale, we can move
> chunks of the Handbook from articles to the book, or from the book to
> standalone articles.

Ya, I'm planning to write some iss about port management in the base system.



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