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Date:      Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:08:06 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams)
Cc:        phk@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-etc@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit:  src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist
Message-ID:  <199606220738.RAA13415@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199606220615.AAA15802@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Jun 22, 96 00:15:11 am

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Nate Williams stands accused of saying:
> 
> I thought the general consensus from the developers was the TCL and the
> resulting nightmare was a bad idea.

The way it was done was, IMHO, wrong.  But we _do_ want Tcl and a more
current Perl in the tree.  And other widely-accepted development tools,
particularly those that are components (like Tcl and Perl) rather than
whole applications (eg UPS).

> I don't know of any developer besides Jordan and you who want this, and
> Jordan appears to have washed his hands of this, so it's your wishes
> against the wishes of everyone else.

I want it.  I can imagine that quite a few other people would benefit
from it.

If nobody else will stand up for it, I'll undertake to bmake Tcl and TclX,
and to maintain them as parts of the base system.  I won't be available
for discussion for all of July, so I'll see what August brings and take
whatever common consensus recomments.

Someone should stand up and wear the new Perl.

And I'd suggest the anti-bloatists stop and think a few seconds before
bitching.

Look at what disk space (doesn't) cost.  Consider the advantages of having 
one _single_standard_ version.  And the fact that Someone Else will
be looking after it, not you.

> Nate

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