Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:48:01 +0000 From: Grant <orbman@gmail.com> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org> Subject: Re: Webmin Message-ID: <74709e4c0412190648a521836@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200412171830.32072.krinklyfig@spymac.com> References: <51428.192.168.1.1.1103328273.squirrel@mail.th-allisons.us> <41C38330.5060409@nbritton.org> <200412171830.32072.krinklyfig@spymac.com>
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:30:31 -0800, Joshua Tinnin <krinklyfig@spymac.com> wrote: > On Friday 17 December 2004 05:09 pm, Nikolas Britton > <freebsd@nbritton.org> wrote: > > mark@the-allisons.us wrote: > > >I've recently installed FreBSD on a system and I'm working though > > > the learning process. > > > > > >In order to ease the configuration and maintenance issues I > > > installed Webmin. > > > > I am of the opinion that if you want to learn something that you just > > dig in and go for it at full bore, (even if you brake it, as this is > > a very valuable learning experience in and of itself and one of the > > best ways to learn*) not skirt around the issue using some wizard > > thingy so you never have to learn it. What happens when your wizard > > thingy stops working or brakes your system, what are you going to do > > then? > > > > *This is why I setup test machines and try to brake crap then try to > > fix it, If I can't then all I have to do is wipe it clean and start > > over. VMware works very well for this. > > Yes, I agree, and you should probably get used to administration through > a shell (command line). I know this can be scary at first, but there is > no purpose in delaying getting used to it, because if you're going to > run FreeBSD, you have to get used to it. However, like grammar, once > you know the rules you can break them, within reason - once you > understand how to do it the "hard way," then figure out a way to make > it easier, except if doing it the hard way has a purpose (like > discouraging mistakes or certain behaviors), or many times you'll > discover that what looked like the hard way is actually easier. As an > example, at first I used cvsup with the gui, but I found almost > immediately that invoking it without the gui from a shell was not only > easier and simpler, but it also allowed me to use it within a script so > I could run it as a cron job. I still use a gui mailer and run my box > for everyday use with a desktop, but I do all administration with > shells or without X running at all (and sometimes Mutt and w3m are just > fine, instead of KMail and Firefox). FreeBSD is created more as a > server than a workstation or general desktop machine, but it works fine > for me that way, although the administration of it reflects this > distinction. I'm not saying you can't use Webmin, but I'd encourage you > to try to admin it the way it's designed before you start adding stuff > to it, just so you know what's going on behind that ui. > > As far as your particular problem, I'm not familiar with Webmin, but you > might have to install ssh or something similar to allow remote access > with it. That question is probably best asked on the -questions list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions , which is > the main tech help list - this is not a tech help list - although you > most likely will get a similar response, but perhaps someone does know. > > - jt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hey, I think webmin only allows localhost to connect at first, so either login to your desktop (if your running one) then shove it in your browser, or you could start a ssh session then run links or lynx go to the webmin pages via that, login and under one of the sections you can allow other address's (not sure which, i havnt used it for a while). Hope this helps you out... i think there is a way of doing it via a config file but i found that quickest for when i used it :) Bye. Grant. -- ---L I N U X--- -Phear the Penguin- http://www.linux.org
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