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Date:      Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:34:56 -0400
From:      Allan Jude <freebsd@allanjude.com>
To:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Downplaying a serious issue
Message-ID:  <533D7FA0.5050404@allanjude.com>
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On 2014-04-03 10:25, Torbjorn Granlund wrote:
> Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>=20
>   On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 07:36:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:
>   > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:47:02AM +0200, Torbjorn Granlund wrote:
>   > > Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>   > >   The issue is specific to certain hardware configurations, and u=
nless
>   > >   anyone has made any breakthroughs that I am unaware of, the cau=
se is
>   > >   still unknown.
>   > >  =20
>   > > It happens on:
>   > >=20
>   > > AMD piledriver running Linux+KVM
>   > > AMD piledriver running Linux+Xen
>   > > Intel Nehalem running NetBSD+Xen
>   > > Intel Sandybridge running NetBSD+Xen
>   > > Intel Haswell running NetBSD+Xen
>   > > AMD K10 Barcelona running NetBSD+Xen
>   > > AMD Bulldozer running NetBSD+Xen
>   > >=20
>   >=20
>   > We need more specifics.
>   >=20
>  =20
>   Here is the type of information we need:
>    CPU information
>    RAM
>    ACPI information
>    Drive controller information
>  =20
> The CPU list is above.
>=20
> I have used RAM from 192 MiB to 512 MiB.  Your machine where you have
> not observed problems clearly has an amount of memory in a quite
> different range.  Perhaps this bug is related to the amount of RAM?
>=20
> For all Xen runs, I have had 'apic =3D 1' in the guest config files.  I=

> don't know about KVM, I used the default.  (I cannot easily retest this=
,
> since the machine in question now runs Linux+Xen instead of Linux+KVM.
> I have no other KVM machine.)
>=20
> Not sure about emulated drive controller, and how to control that.  I'v=
e
> used file:/xen/freebsd/32/v100/disk.img,hda,w' mostly, but also tried
> xvda instead of hda.
>=20
> I have been persistent, trying at least 30 installs of 10.0-foo for
> several values of foo (BETA, RC, RELEASE, STABLE) and on the various
> systems above.
>=20
> It seems quite likely that this is very easy to confirm, given that
> every one of my attempts has been a failure.
>=20
> Note that the actual installation procedure apparently works.  After
> reboot some simple repeated filesystem command, say
>=20
>   sha1 /bin/cat
>   sha1 /bin/cat
>=20
> will almost certainly yield different results.
>=20
> I've tested vfs.unmapped_buf_allowed=3D0 only for one machine (since I =
saw
> that only recently) and it works in that case.  It is the AMD piledrive=
r
> running Linux+Xen, 512 MiB RAM.
>=20
>=20
> Torbj=C3=B6rn
> Please encrypt, key id 0xC8601622
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>=20

Glen is looking for very specific details about the CPU, RAM and disk
controller of the host, not the VM


--=20
Allan Jude


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