Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 10:40:11 +0500 (ESK) From: "Serge A. Babkin" <babkin@hq.icb.chel.su> To: jehamby@lightside.com Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Help, I've been SCOed! Message-ID: <199612080540.KAA25708@hq.icb.chel.su> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95.961207195642.184D-100000@hamby1> from "Jake Hamby" at Dec 7, 96 08:37:17 pm
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> before, so had been using console mode all this time). We also tried to > install the developer environment on the off chance that we could use ld > or some other tool to somehow "wrap" the a.out binaries with a COFF or ELF > header. There was a tool called "coff2elf" but NOTHING related to XENIX > binaries. Does anyone have background info on these old XENIX binaries? > Will FreeBSD or Linux run them? SCO had an utility obj2coff or something_else2coff that converted XENIX object (not executable) files to COFF format. I can say that it was in versions 3.2.1 and 3.2.2 of SCO. The C compiler in these versions produced XENIX object files and then invoked this utility. This utility was designed to work with C compiler and coredumped if you tried to convert an object file you got from assembly language source. > > On the plus side, the X11R5/Motif desktop is decent. It looks a bit like > both Windows and CDE. Their help system is done in HTML (oddly, most of > the HTML pages were compress(1)ed), with a modified version of NCSA Mosaic > called "scohelp" (the regular Mosaic was also bundled). All the pages are > fed through a local http server (running on port 432), so that a cgi > script can also link you to man pages (e.g. /cgi-bin/man/cp+1). Also, > scoadmin is a decent program, and the Visual Tcl concept (the same program > works in console or X) is interesting. I think that the SCO desktop is VERY uncomfortable. I tried to use it but in a short time I understood that it is not what I wanted. One of the worsest things in it is that when you browse directories and go to the subdirectory it gives you a new window and remains the parent window open. Shortly you get LOTS of directory windows on your screen. In my opinion HP VUE has much better appearance. Especially I like their idea of dashboard. Really fvwm already does many things in a VUE like way. > 2) Start on a decent admin type program. Personally, I think a good > approach is something combining the ideas of SCO (works on GUI and > command-line), Sun (supports files and NIS), and AIX (shows you exactly > what commands it's running to do the job, so you can put them in a script > or run them manually if you desire). The disadvantages of these three > tools we should avoid: SCO almost everything involves relinking the > kernel, Solaris doesn't use UNIX tools to do its job so you have no idea > how to do things yourself manually (the exact opposite of AIX), and I > don't know about AIX enough to say what its weak points are. I don't know about AIX but HP-UX has really nice SAM program. After all it allows you to see the log and learn the ways in that the same things are done in shell. -SB
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