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Date:      24 Feb 2004 09:52:15 -0500
From:      Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org>
To:        jsha <johann@ninja.terrabionic.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: obsolete files?
Message-ID:  <448yislecg.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040224043527.GA85953@ninja.terrabionic.com>
References:  <20040222072428.GB54683@ninja.terrabionic.com> <200402220142.32703.kstewart@owt.com> <20040224043527.GA85953@ninja.terrabionic.com>

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Please don't top-post.

> On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 01:42:32AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > On Saturday 21 February 2004 11:24 pm, jsha wrote:
> > > hello.
> > >
> > > does make world leave obsolete files on your system
> > > after install? without even the slightest effort to
> > > remove them?
> > >
> > > please say it isn't so. i like make world.
> > >
> > 
> > Worse, it is known to cause fatal situations where you have to use the 
> > fixit disk to recover your system or do a reinstall. If you upgrade a 
> > kernel that panics, you will be committed to using the bad build. The 
> > installworld being run after the installkernel and reboot to single 
> > user mode is for your protection.
> > 
> > FWIW, even installworld leaves obsolete files on your system at various 
> > times.
> > 
> > Kent

jsha <johann@ninja.terrabionic.com> writes:

> damn, this sounds bad.
> 
> so what, freebsd from scratch is the only way to avoid this?
> 
> and how come make/install world is made like that? shouldn't
> the developers try to avoid this kind of thing?

Following the documented upgrade path (including checking UPDATING
for any "special" actions needed at a particular point) will avoid
having an unbootable system.  Kent Stewart was explaining why 
using "make world" is less safe than using the documented procedure.

And having a few obsolete files left behind is not generally a
problem.  It's possible to find some and weed them out, but it's not
worth worrying about.



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