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Date:      Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:48:19 -0500 (EST)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
To:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: More ULE bugs fixed.
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1031105104658.76974D-100000@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <20031105091007.GJ73736@starjuice.net>

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On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

> On (2003/11/04 15:46), Jeff Roberson wrote:
> 
> > > The thing is, I'm using 4BSD, not ULE, so I wouldn't trouble Jeff to
> > > look for a cause for that specific problem in ULE.
> > 
> > How long have you been seeing this?  Are you using a usb mouse?  Can you
> > try with PS/2 if you are?
> 
> Since my last update, Fri Oct 24 17:47:22. 
> 
> I am using a USB mouse, but don't have a PS/2 one.  I'm also using
> moused, and my WM is sawfish. 
> 
> The problem with all these reports is that they're scattered.  It's hard
> to pin down exactly what the common elements are.  Indeed, we may be
> looking at combinations of elements. 
> 
> I don't have time to be more helpful, which is why I hadn't complained. 
> I just wanted to include the datapoint that over-active mouse behaviour
> under load exists under SCHED_4BSD as well. 
> 
> Incidentally, this is under ATA disk load.  I don't really push my CPU. 

There's been some speculation that the PS/2 mouse problem could be due to
high interrupt latency for non-fast interrupt handlers (especially ones
not MPSAFE) in 5.x.  I think it would make a lot of sense for us to push
Giant off both the PS/2 mouse and syscons interrupt handlers in the near
future.  For syscons, this would also improve the reliability of dropping
into the debugger from a non-serial console.

Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects
robert@fledge.watson.org      Network Associates Laboratories




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