Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:25:54 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" <per@xterm.dk> To: <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: src update without console access Message-ID: <63359.62.242.151.142.1095071154.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> In-Reply-To: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8CE@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> References: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8CE@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com>
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Hi Patrik Maybe I didn't make myself clear, if so, sorry. It's not the update/install procedure itself that's causing the problem at all. When running 'installworld', 'mergemaster -p' and 'mergemaster' the server needs to be in single-user mode. That is not possible for out customers! They often sit on the other side of the world on a ssh connection and in single-user mode you don't have ssh.That's the problem! I use BSD only (Open, Free and a single Net) for our infracture/setup (bgp, dns, ntp, mail et al.) in our datacenter. No problem - I have consol access all the time for the things I can't do via ssh. At first we only offered Tux-boxes. Now we offer fbsd boxes as well. Now these customers need to update their servers from any location. respectfully /per per@xterm.dk >> The problem is that customers don't have console access while in >> single-user mode ! (can't run installworld, mergemaster) >> I've tested an upgrade from a running system (killing >> sendmail first, no >> attached users) with poor result .. 'mergemaster -p' and >> 'mergemaster' >> only found a diff in /etc/motd and 'uname -a' didn't show any >> system changes after a reboot. > > I've ran FreeBSD for quite some time and usaly you dont need acual > console access to the server to update it. The only problem I've > ran into so far is updating from FreeBSD 5.0 to 5.2.1 .. for some > reason the tcsh update didnt work and crunched the whole > installation... anyways... Normally I simply run > mergemaster -p > make buildworld > make buildkernel [KERNCONF="XYZ"] > make installkernel [KERNCONF="XYZ"] > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > > which usally works very good.. > But there are no guarantee that this wont crash the system to a > non-working state where the only solution is a complete re-install. > >> In obsd I'm used to run a "clean" cvs, building and installing >> from a running system. I can't expect customers to go through that >> >> procedure so >> I was hoping that any you guys could help me with a solution for >> the customers? > > As far as I know there are no other options.. you might want to > take a look at the port "security/freebsd-update" I've not used it > myself tho. You can find information about it here > <http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update>. > > Best Regards, > Patrik > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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