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Date:      Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:16:01 +1100
From:      Jonathan Michaels <jon@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: What does "Voxware still supported in 4.0" mean exactly?
Message-ID:  <20000324091556.B40513@phoenix.welearn.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <200003231854.KAA01378@mass.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 10:54:43AM -0800
References:  <14554.26052.433543.757976@hip186.ch.intel.com> <200003231854.KAA01378@mass.cdrom.com>

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all,

On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 10:54:43AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you Brad, this is the underlying point of my original message. I guess I
> > didn't state it clearly enough. I wouldn't mind doing the above either. There
> > have been mentions of "why doesn't somebody start a ``hardware for FreeBSD
> > developer's fund''?" on these lists before. I don't really remember the
> > details of the answers received--suffice to say that the jist of the answer
> > was "we already use CD profit sales to buy hardware."
> 
> No, that doesn't suffice.  Donations to FreeBSD Inc. have always been 
> used for the best interests of the project; this includes buying hardware 
> as required or as incentives to developers that have put in stellar 
> efforts.

pity this cannot include a few simple things like a text
interface disabled people could use. or an easily managable
(waste of resources, my personal opinion) gui.

much is made of people getting thier hands dirty with
makingcode work .. most genuinely disabled people have
difficulty handling the keyboard letalone the  complexities of
coding.

we as a rule have  to rely upon the  generiousity of others to
get  those very things  that the "others", that is those upon
whome we are forced  to rely, take fro  granted .. almost as
thier god  given right.

so becaue  we cannot code we cannot get because those of teh
"others" cannot be bothered to  find out whatit is that is
required  in the frst place, they as a class think that thier
vague assumptions of what its like  or what they thinkmight be
required is no subsitute for geting intimate with a disabled
person and finding out  what the real problems are and how
best  to  make the  path easier  to navigate.

this in tern would  produce significant benifits for  the
"abled body" majority.

i'd givemy eye teeth to be able to  write code, debug and build
tools .. but i cannot  and in all likelyhood will never be
able to .. and  so i will be forced to use the screen that i
can afford that  is slowly destroying my already severly
damaged eye mucles. every bodies eye get tired, every bodies
eye mucles  get weak it would serve severybodies purrpose to
have  a relaible stable text screen driver that wold support
20line my 60 char, or 20x40 or 10 line by 70 char.

i'm sure that taking the  current state of  the art and a few
pokes  here and thier a result  could be had failrly quicly, or
so itwas back when i was  learning my trade and the state of
teh art was a motorola mc68b09e and its comlimentry screen
driver a mc?4481 or someting like  that, its been over  25
years and my memory  isnt what  it used t be.

trying as always

jonathan

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