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Date:      Sat, 29 Apr 1995 00:00:57 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        phk@ref.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp)
Cc:        nate@trout.sri.MT.net, jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: What I'd *really like* for 2.0.5
Message-ID:  <199504290700.AAA08761@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <199504290539.WAA24041@ref.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Apr 28, 95 10:39:25 pm

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> 
> > > > All the probe messages irritate the hell out of me.  The style is
> > > > inconsistent in many places and I still maintain that I do *NOT* want
> > > > to know about all the things it didn't find, I want to know about only
> > > > the things it did since....
> > 
> > > With the advent of userconfig, I'm for removing them.  Now you can use
> > > userconfig to see what drivers you have in your kernel.
> > > 
> > > Lets kill them now.
> > 
> > I disagree.  On bootup you don't have access to userconfig, and it's a
> > very useful debugging tool to find out what's a kernel's been compiled
> > with to see if you're it's a driver bug or a hardware misconfiguration.
> 
> Nate are you sleeping ?
> Have you tried "boot: /kernel -c" lately ???
> userconfig IS ONLY available at booup !

Then I counter with the opposite argument, I can't see what did not
get found after boot if you remove the not found messages.  Right
now I can use dmesg or look in /var/log/messages and see it, but if
you remove those I would have no way to find out what I told it 
to probe for but it did not find :-(.



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Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
Accurate Automation Company                   Custom computers for FreeBSD



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