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Date:      Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:11:44 +0200
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        Doug White <dwhite@gumbysoft.com>, Santos <casd@myrealbox.com>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is this still actual?
Message-ID:  <a05111b04b991b6c7b30d@[10.0.1.60]>
In-Reply-To: <20020827152738.F68343-100000@carver.gumbysoft.com>
References:  <20020827152738.F68343-100000@carver.gumbysoft.com>

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At 3:28 PM -0700 2002/08/27, Doug White wrote:

>  On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Santos wrote:
>
>>  http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1148/sam0107a/0107a.htm and
>>  http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1147/sam0108q/0108q.htm
>
>  These benchmarks are not to be trusted. SysAdmin Magazine has refused to
>  provide sufficient information to reconstruct their benchmarks externally
>  for verification, which is the first step in publishing even a
>  semi-scientific benchmark.

	They didn't run the benchmarks -- the authors did.  Moreover, the 
authors are totally fscking clueless programmers who don't know 
diddly about system administration or performance tuning.  They just 
blindly apply what other people tell them to apply.

	I know this because I have extensively spoken to them 
specifically on the topic of what they did for this article, and 
their methodology.


	The sad thing is that they actually had a real point, and if they 
had stuck to just the one OS that they actually know anything about 
(from the perspective of system programmers), then they would have 
been able to make that point clear and not cloud the issue with 
things like whether or not they tuned their other platforms 
appropriately, etc....


	IMO, what they really wanted to do was to demonstrate their 
"superior" spamware on the "superior" spamware platform(s), and if 
they could take a pot-shot at FreeBSD in the process, then so much 
the better.

>  Pretty much everyone, even the Windows folks, has deridied SysAdmin about
>  these articles -- search around.

	Indeed.  I hate to say it, but don't bother wasting your time 
with _SysAdmin_.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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