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Date:      Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:10:18 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>
Cc:        Steve Price <steve@freebsd.org>, Murray Stokely <murray@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, arch@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: xfree4 by default?
Message-ID:  <20020103101018.D12254@monorchid.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020102144957.J4619@tao.org.uk>
References:  <20011231174113.O16101@elvis.mu.org> <XFMail.011231154319.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20011231162222.V2286@windriver.com> <20011231183928.F37696@bsd.havk.org> <20020102144957.J4619@tao.org.uk>

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On Wednesday,  2 January 2002 at 14:49:57 +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 06:39:28PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 04:22:22PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote:
>>>
>>>   I agree that we should make the switch in -STABLE immediately after
>>> FreeBSD 4.5 is released.  Every other x86 Unix I've been exposed to
>>> has been using X4 for over a year.  The arguments about older
>>> supported hardware do not hold water any more since X4 supports so
>>> many newer chipsets out of the box that X336 can't handle.
>>
>> All of the recent package builds have been with XFREE86_VERSION=4.
>> I'm not sure how long for sure but for as long as I can remember
>> which isn't saying much.  Making it the default shouldn't be all
>> that difficult in bsd.port.mk.  Don't know how hard it would be
>> for sysinstall and friends.
>
> What's the best way to use it?  We appear to have a monolithic port
> XFree86-4, and then -clients, -documents, -libraries, -manuals, imake,
> etc.  The dependancies don't appear to work too well between them, when
> using portupgrade.

I'm all for the change, but I'd like to see some direction pretty
soon: I'm about to hand in the final manuscripts for "The Complete
FreeBSD", 4th edition, and I'd like to be able to describe it there.

Does XFree86 4 have a useful configuration utility yet?

Greg
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