Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:45:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" <michaelv@mindbender.serv.net> Cc: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, dennis <dennis@etinc.com>, Alex Belits <abelits@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us>, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and NT Message-ID: <199707230145.TAA10643@rocky.mt.sri.com> In-Reply-To: <199707230003.RAA04041@MindBender.serv.net> References: <199707222346.RAA10262@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199707230003.RAA04041@MindBender.serv.net>
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> >I started asking around some of my 'NT' expert friends, and if you do > >'development' on an NT box, it's *very* unstable. Normal users can take > >it out doing development, which *never* happens under unix. These folks > >have been doing NT development with pre-NT 3 betas, so are not new to > >this. But, the 'market' is in NT, so they stick with it and reboot > >their machines 3-4 times/day, which has been typical behavior for M$ > >OS's since time began. > > So what you're saying is I, and the thousands of people using NT for > serious development, without crashing it, are imagining things? I'm saying that there aren't thousands of people using NT for serious development w/out crashing it. I asked around to the the dozens of people I know that develop under NT, and they all say it crashes. (Though not as often as Win 3.1). Interestingly enough, I *rarely* crash Win95, but I guess I'm just lucky. > I'm willing to accept that there is a buggy driver(s) which is biting > many people, and causing them lots of instability. With a Diamond video card, arguably the most common/popular card in existance? > pre-NT4 on the same hardware, since the same hardware may have been > using a driver in NT3 which was outside the graphics subsystem, which > has been changed to run inside the graphics subsystem. These folks have been using NT since pre NT3. NT 3.51 was *much* stabler than NT 4, but it still wasn't as bulletproof as *nix. (There statements, not mine since I have no experience with NT < 4.0) > However, the fact that many many people are able to do serious > development on NT without crashes attests to the assertion that it is > not NT by itself that is the problem. See above. I don't buy the statement that 'many people are able to do development w/out serious crashes'. > Where is this Java/Visual-Depth patch located? Look in the knowledge database on the WWW server. I don't have the patch off-hand, but Java programs won't run in greater than 8-bit mode w/out it. Nate
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