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Date:      Sun, 3 Aug 1997 00:30:42 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Alex <garbanzo@hooked.net>
To:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Some thoughts and ideas, and quirks
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.970803003007.1707E-100000@zippy.dyn.ml.org>

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As I was installing FreeBSD 3.0-SNAP970618, I noticed a few things that
should probably be corrected, and a few things I'd like to offer my
opinion on ;).

1.) The boot.help file on the boot.flp image incorrectly states when
describing the -cv option that c displays verbose messages and that -v
enteres a kernel configurator.

2.) The default motd says that the FAQ and Handbook are in the info
distribution (they're in the doc distrib, I think. Still can't find em).

3.) I noticed that the bundled sendmail is 8.8.5, 8.8.6 is the latest.
Same with tcl 7.5 (vs 7.6p2) and perl 4?!?! (5.003 or so), and pppd is
now at 2.3.1 (or so). Perhaps these should be upgraded since all the
latest versions are stable. I also noticed that there are still packages
that depend on tk 4.1, and some on 4.2, meaning i have two copies of tk
installed.

4.) This has probably been debated endlessly, however I'd like to offer my
two cents.  I honestly think that rpm style packages (meaning no more
split up tarballs, and no huge 70mb bin distrib) are way more convenient
and easier to manage. This would let me download a minimum of things, and
still get a working system, instead of gcc, and the works, and be a lot
more descriptive.  On the other hand, I noticed that the x packages
installed quicker (they're in .tgz format not split up tarballs) off my
fat partition than did the huge tarballs 100+k/s faster on average.

5.) On the whole bsd vs sysv init scheme. Since I'm sure that there is no
chance of FreeBSD inherriting a sysv style init, I was wonderin if maybe
a comprimise would be in order?  Perhaps having the bsd scripts, turn into
sysv style directories so rc.i386 is a directory and contains things like
say S52linuxemu, etc, etc. Comments?

6.) Also, while tinkering with Debian, I really liked the menu config for
the kernel vs the text file that *bsd* uses. IMO this would be great to
integrate into FreeBSD. Also due to the nature of Linux, I really did like
the ability to easily keep multiple kernel source configurations, along
with multiple kernel sources. Perhaps something with libdialog could be
worked out.

- alex




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