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Date:      Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:42:32 -0400
From:      Zaphod Beeblebrox <zbeeble@gmail.com>
To:        Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-fs <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ZFS errors on the array but not the disk.
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I manually replaced a disk... and the array was scrubbed recently.
Interestingly, I seem to be in the "endless loop"  of resilvering problem.
Not much I can find on it.  but resilvering will complete and I can then
run another scrub.  It will complete, too.  Then rebooting causes another
resilvering.

Another odd data point: it seems as if the things that show up as "errors"
change from resilvering to resilvering.

One bug, it would seem, is that once ZFS has detected an error... another
scrub can reset it, but no attempt is made to read-through the error if you
access the object directly.

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <zbeeble@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > What does it mean when checksum errors appear on the array (and the vdev)
> > but not on any of the disks?  See the paste below.  One would think that
> > there isn't some ephemeral data stored somewhere that is not one of the
> > disks, yet "cksum" errors show only on the vdev and the array lines.
> Help?
> >
> > [2:17:316]root@virtual:/vr2/torrent/in> zpool status
> >   pool: vr2
> >  state: ONLINE
> > status: One or more devices is currently being resilvered.  The pool will
> >         continue to function, possibly in a degraded state.
> > action: Wait for the resilver to complete.
> >   scan: resilver in progress since Thu Oct 23 23:11:29 2014
> >         1.53T scanned out of 22.6T at 62.4M/s, 98h23m to go
> >         119G resilvered, 6.79% done
> > config:
> >
> >         NAME               STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
> >         vr2                ONLINE       0     0    36
> >           raidz1-0         ONLINE       0     0    72
> >             label/vr2-d0   ONLINE       0     0     0
> >             label/vr2-d1   ONLINE       0     0     0
> >             gpt/vr2-d2c    ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native  (resilvering)
> >             gpt/vr2-d3b    ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native
> >             gpt/vr2-d4a    ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native
> >             ada14          ONLINE       0     0     0
> >             label/vr2-d6   ONLINE       0     0     0
> >             label/vr2-d7c  ONLINE       0     0     0
> >             label/vr2-d8   ONLINE       0     0     0
> >           raidz1-1         ONLINE       0     0     0
> >             gpt/vr2-e0     ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native
> >             gpt/vr2-e1     ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native
> >             gpt/vr2-e2     ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native
> >             gpt/vr2-e3     ONLINE       0     0     0
> >             gpt/vr2-e4     ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native
> >             gpt/vr2-e5     ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native
> >             gpt/vr2-e6     ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native
> >             gpt/vr2-e7     ONLINE       0     0     0  block size: 512B
> > configured, 4096B native
> >
> > errors: 43 data errors, use '-v' for a list
>
> The checksum errors will appear on the raidz vdev instead of a leaf if
> vdev_raidz.c can't determine which leaf vdev was responsible.  This
> could happen if two or more leaf vdevs return bad data for the same
> block, which would also lead to unrecoverable data errors.  I see that
> you have some unrecoverable data errors, so maybe that's what happened
> to you.
>
> Subtle design bugs in ZFS can also lead to vdev_raidz.c being unable
> to determine which child was responsible for a checksum error.
> However, I've only seen that happen when a raidz vdev has a mirror
> child.  That can only happen if the child is a spare or replacing
> vdev.  Did you activate any spares, or did you manually replace a
> vdev?
>
> -Alan
>



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