Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:54:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net> To: Jamie <jamie@geniegate.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "app store" for open source Unix? Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.01.1004092135560.10353@t1.m.reedmedia.net> In-Reply-To: <20100409211612.GB6032@apollo.podro.com> References: <alpine.NEB.2.01.1004091914440.10353@t1.m.reedmedia.net> <20100409211612.GB6032@apollo.podro.com>
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Jamie wrote: > > I do understand the problem. The open source Unix community is so > > diverse -- so many platforms, so many APIs, so many different developer > > environments, so many opinions, and little money incentive. > > For cross platform, there is "pkgsrc" you might look into it, NetBSD, > DragonFlyBSD and rumors... some linux's can use pkgsrc. :) (Yes, I KNOW pkgsrc. I ported it to BSD/OS, I helped port it to DragonFly. And I have an entire Linux distro based on pkgsrc which I means a pkgsrc-ized glibc, linux the kernel, modutils, netkit, vixie-cron, etc ...) > We have the technology to do all this, but, not everyone uses a unix > desktop. I for one would be disgusted if I needed a gui or a browser > to install something. > > Browsing them is a bit of a hassle, I use 'grep' for that, but I guess > there's something like: > > make search keyword="blah" s/keyword/key/ > (I never use that) > > Most of the apps have some kind of URL you can load for more info if you > need it. Building from ports (or pkgsrc) is too slow. So I will stop there. Reading pkg-descr usually doesn't provide enough detail to know if it provides what I want. Visiting each website adds more time (especially since websites vary in quality of explanation. For example, when my wife wanted a calculator, I ended up installing around seven and when I wanted an image viewer I installed over ten. Too much wasted time. > I do wish there were a safe way to run the make config-recursive and > have it "really" do it recursively, I wish the build system would test > for a tty and if no tty, go into batch mode, and I wish it'd email me > if it needed more from me. (and give me the chance to conf later one) I haven't tried it, but what about the BATCH setting used for skipping interactive ports? <snip> > Which fires up a gadget for me to supply additional info to the package > being built, and things continue... Now ... that is just way too much time for me. If I want an application, I want to find it and install it within a minute. Jeremy C. Reed echo 'EhZ[h ^jjf0%%h[[Zc[Z_W$d[j%Xeeai%ZW[ced#]dk#f[d]k_d%' | \ tr '#-~' '\-.-{'
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