Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:37:28 -0700 From: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> To: James Gill <gill@topsecret.net> Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Disabling FTP Message-ID: <383AB4B8.1FB571F6@softweyr.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911221114340.2830-100000@pacific.int.topsecret.net>
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James Gill wrote:
>
> Yes. First sencence, fourth word: newbie. Newbie to FreeBSD, newbie to
> unix. I'm not a numbskull, I'm just not yet oriented to the
> environment.
That's OK, we like newbies to FreeBSD too. ;^)
> ->Good for them, but it's not the newbies we primarily target methinks.
> ->
>
> tell that to -advocacy.
If they can't install it, they won't ever stay with it. The solution to
this is to create install profiles, including a "clueless newbie" install
that turns on everything but warns them this can be dangerous. A little
doco that explains WHY it's dangerous wouldn't hurt.
> Once I got FreeBSD installed the first thing I wanted to know was how to
> make it do what I wanted it to do. So I started learning how to config my
> account, mail tools, desktop, and eventually DNS. Somewhere after that
> comes Mail (Qmail methinks), Webserver (Apache), and then maybe an FTP
> server (?). I have yet to touch the inetd.conf but I have used FTP daily
> to transfer files between boxes.
Not at all unusual, I suspect. Most newbies to the UNIX environment aren't
going to know what a great tool ssh (and scp) are, or that they're easier
to use than ftp, telnet, etc., once configured with keys. We should view
this as an opportunity to teach the newbies, rather than cramming something
down their throats.
--
"Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
Wes Peters Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/
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