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Date:      Mon, 22 Jan 2001 02:24:50 -0000
From:      "BSD Blood" <bsdblood@hotmail.com>
To:        cyberhawk@home.com, bastill@sa.apana.org.au
Cc:        dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au, mike@sixpak.net, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 4.2 and X
Message-ID:  <F98QtpfTYSl1q4gtopW00001237@hotmail.com>

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I have a Creative Labs 3D Voodoo Banshee. In my case, redhat detected my 
video card perfectly. FreeBSD had problems with it. I'm using the same 
version of X. I believe it's in the OS; i.e. how they have enhanced the 
configuration, detection, etc.



>From: hawk <cyberhawk@home.com>
>To: bastill@sa.apana.org.au
>CC: Doug Young <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>, Mike <mike@sixpak.net>, 
>freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.2 and X
>Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:58:00 -0800
>
>Oddly Enough it shouldnt do that ;)
>I have Several Linux/BSD installations on my Test cpu (debian, Mandrake, 
>RH, Slackware, BEos, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD, hey its my test cpu ;)
>and in general, the only change you need to do to get the sever running is 
>Play with
>the monitor type. I know strange, i think, the problem is that each distro 
>detects
>monitors a different way? Possibly, oh well =)
>
>Brian Astill wrote:
>
> > Strange....
> > I tried to install RH6.2 on free space on my second HD.  It balked 
>(permanently)
> > when it came to installing X.
> > Then I obtained FreeBSD 4.2.  Installed X with no trouble at all.
> > The monitor is a cheap generic SVGA, the card Diamond Stealth 2000 Pro 
>(4MB).
> >
> > Does this mean that certain combinations of HW & SW simply won't work 
>together?
> > I still don't understand why RH would not install, where FreeBSD went 
>"like a
> > charm" when SFAIK the versions of Xfree86 are the same.
> >
> > Brian.
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Doug Young wrote:
> > >
> > > I've had exactly the same problems several times when I tried to 
>install X, haven't been too concerned because my main use for FreeBSD has 
>been gateway boxes that are probably better off wihout X anyway (seems most 
>experts believe so for security reasons).
> > >
> > >  Occasionally I get a 3.x "X" setup to work fine (never once a 4.x) 
>although its not consistent enough to use regularly. I still have 
>nightmares from my linux (gasp, cough, splutter) days thinking about KDE 
>lockups / crashes etc and haven't yet used XFCE sufficiently to feel at 
>homewith it .......If I really want a Unix GUI then I install Solaris 8 
>which works properly EVERY time & has reliable support for applications I 
>use  (particularly StarOffice / Oracle that as far as I'm aware are still 
>quite experimental in FreeBSD). For what its worth, X is probably fairly 
>straightforward but like most things its just the inadequate explanation 
>about configuring it that causes lots of people so much aggro.
> > >
> > > If I did have a pressing need for FreeBSD 4.x / XFree something / 
>StarOffice I'd be browsing sites like freebsddiary.org, bsdvault.net, 
>mostgraveconcern (links from previous sites) which generally have 
>docomentation better suited to us non-experts than official stuff like the 
>Handbook etc.
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >   From: Mike
> > >   To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
> > >   Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:46 AM
> > >   Subject: FreeBSD 4.2 and X
> > >
> > >
> > >   I've tried installing from CD (4.0)
> > >   I've tried installing from ftp (4.2)
> > >   I've tried installing the 5.0 current
> > >   ...
> > >   and in each case somehow the installation goes wacked when it comes 
>to X.
> > >
> > >   Everytime I try to run XF86Setup it pauses for 30 seconds and tells 
>me it can't initialize the (X) server.
> > >
> > >   What I WANT to do is install minimally, adding things as I learn and 
>grow, not have everything but the kitchen sink installed and then try to 
>make sense of it.  But whenever it comes to X, I'm cursed.
> > >
> > >   One time I got it running correctly, but somehow I ended up with 
>parts of XFree 3.3.3 and XFree4.0 mixed up.  It was a confusing mess.  So 
>I'm starting over for the 20th+ time.
> > >
> > >   Is anyone else having install problems with X?  What kind of install 
>are you doing (I'm doing X-User, maybe I should go with developer to get 
>source files?) and what version of FreeBSD are you using? (I'm TRYING to 
>get 4.2 to work)
> > >
> > >   Any help appreciated.
> > >
> > >   Mike
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > --
> > Regards,
> > Brian
> >
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> > Dr Brian Astill  Visiting Research Fellow
> > Flinders University Institute of International Education
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> > bastill@sa.apana.org.au
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