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Date:      Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:33:06 -0700
From:      "Randy A. Katz" <randyk@ccsales.com>
To:        Richard Hodges <rh@alpine.net>, dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
Cc:        isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Multi-homed - Load Balancing - No Single Point of Failure
Message-ID:  <3.0.3.32.19970814143306.00b6ac80@ccsales.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970814085843.10933B-100000@oak.alpine.net>
References:  <3.0.32.19970814102704.00ddce50@etinc.com>

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How does one do Multi-homed, Load Balancing & No Single Point of Failure
with Pipeline 130's and Cisco 2501's???




At 09:21 AM 8/14/97 -0700, Richard Hodges wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, dennis wrote:
>
>> At 08:17 AM 8/14/97 -0500, Edwin Culp wrote:
>> >Daniel O'Callaghan wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Randy A. Katz wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > Given two upstream providers is it possible to use a single or two
>> FreeBSD
>> >> > boxes to do BGP routing and load balancing? And if so, what equipment
>> >> > should we use? T1 Cards? Routers?
>
>> >> Dennis will probably remind you to look at www.etinc.com regarding
>> >> synchronous serial cards.
>> >
>> >But will he actually sell them? 
>
>> Any what does this mean, oh mighty one?
>> 
>> Dennis
>
>I think he is wondering if you will make a sale.  I have considered
>your cards myself, but have chosen cisco and Ascend instead.
>
>My "typical" router is one T1 and one Ethernet.
>
>Etinc: (new)       Ascend: (new)           cisco: (used)
>---------------    ---------               -----------
> $550  5025 card   $1025  Pipeline 130     $1200  2501 (used)
> $125  cable       $ n/a  v.35 cable n/a   $  ??  cable may be included
> $400  DSU/CSU     $ n/a  DSU/CSU          $ 400  DSU/CSU
>----               ------                  -----
>$1075 (w/o host)   $1025  ready to go      $1600  ready to go
>
>+ $50  to add F/R    + 0  included           $ 0  included
>
>Yes, I *DO UNDERSTAND* that *BSD is much more powerful for
>routing...  But I know how to set up cisco and Ascend.
>
>Your web page documentation could benefit greatly if you would put
>your manuals, tips, and configuration information online.  You see,
>I want to know everything about the job *BEFORE I BUY*.
>
>If I could get your basic 5025 with cable for $250 to $300, I would
>probably get one for experimentation.  And it everything went well,
>start using your products instead of cisco and Ascend.  But I am not
>going to spend close to $700 just to find out.  Heck, I just got 2
>used Pipeline 130 routers (T1/ISDN) for less than $700 each...
>
>I hope you don't take this as a grip, but if you do, please consider
>it that I really would like to try your products... but the price is
>too high and I need a chance to build confidence in them.
>
>All the best,
>
>-Richard
>
>--------------------------------------------
>Richard Hodges    |    (702) 888-3000
>Alpine Internet   |   400 Fairview Drive
>rh@alpine.net     |   Carson City, NV 89701
>member, ISP/C
>
>
>



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