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Date:      Sun, 7 Aug 2016 08:40:14 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <wlosh@bsdimp.com>
To:        Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, Bruce Simpson <bms@fastmail.net>, Oliver Pinter <oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r303716 - head/crypto/openssh
Message-ID:  <4D28752C-0584-4294-9250-FA88B0C6E805@bsdimp.com>
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References:  <201608031608.u73G8Mjq055909@repo.freebsd.org> <d419bddd-fe56-bc11-8965-142ca0b94ebc@fastmail.net> <9a01870a-d99d-13a2-54bd-01d32616263c@fastmail.net> <CAPQ4fftQ30_aqU8V_ea-WEKBdMZs5H9Rwxnfa0crid_df049nQ@mail.gmail.com> <b99c06ac-82d6-ccda-419c-2ece5be4636f@fastmail.net> <30e655d1-1df7-5e2a-fccb-269e3cea4684@freebsd.org> <20160807125227.GC22212@zxy.spb.ru> <7237f5e6-fd65-a7e5-7751-4ed1c464b39a@freebsd.org>

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> On Aug 7, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>> We can't turn our security
>>> team into compatibility team, by constantly restoring removed code, =
such
>>> code quickly becomes outdated and may add new security holes even =
being
>>> inactive.
>>=20
>> What is security hole by present this ciphers in _client_?
>=20
> It is obvious, but it will be better for you to ask openssh author =
about
> his decisions, I have no intention to act like explainer of his =
action.

That=E2=80=99s a cop-out answer. We, as a project, need to articulate to =
our
users, whom we care about, why this rather obnoxious hit to usability
was taken. The answer must be more complete than =E2=80=9CWe just =
disabled
it because upstream disabled it for reasons we=E2=80=99re too lazy to =
explain
or document how to work around"

Warner=



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